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I still prefer the old foldup eyecups vs these twist up things. On that note, certain of the binoculars had better, more positive detents on the eyecup adjustment.

Oh yes; and I looked at a Vortex bino that had some STUPID ranging function on the glass. Ruined them for me! Without that crap on there, I'd have been seriously interested in them.

So as it stands, Bushnell is out. I gotta see a LOT better from Leupold to be interested. I have a buddy that showed up on a moose hunt once, with new Leupolds. They fogged internally, day one that we got rain. My old Bushnell Trophies handled that rain, and all the other crap I've put them through, and have never failed me. But I think I can get better glass...
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I wouldn't let one bad pair of Leupolds completely turn you off from them.  Most modern day optics are water and fog proof.  Something was obviously wrong with them for them to do that.

That being said, lots of other awesome options available as well.  Now is a great time to be buying optics.  There are so many excellent choices out there.  I have had or used Meopta, Vortex, Zeiss, and Leica in the last 6 or 7 years and have been very satisfied with all of them. 

I really like the Vortex Viper HD for the money.  Comparing them next to my Meopta Meostar and Zeiss Victory, they looked pretty darn good.  I can see a pair of the 8x32s in my future for sure.    
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Cabelas Euro are awfully nice, eh? Is the HD version really worth $400 more?
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Thats what I have is the Euro's, same as the Meopta Meostar.  They are very very nice.  They say the HDs have less chromatic aberration.  So if that bugs you then they might be.  But I have been perfectly happy with mine.  I also have a set of Zeiss Victory RF binos and optically they are much closer that one would think.  If I did not want the range finding function I would have a real hard time spending anything over the Meopta Meostar line for sure.   
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Originally posted by Demonical Demonical wrote:

Cabelas Euro are awfully nice, eh? Is the HD version really worth $400 more?


Looks like they are only $300 more, not $400. 
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i own the Meostar HDs as well...ive never looked thro the non HD ones but ive heard the main difference is no chromatic abberation.....if i were id go on and save up a bit extra and get the HDs...i got mine new in box at a deal i couldnt refuse....the view thro them is incredible...im also glad i didnt get the 8x
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The HDs have improved CA control as stated, but also offer much more neutral color.

Because of this they have better apparent resolution, to me.
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I looked through those 10x42 Meopta HD's again today.  The more I use them the more impressed I am with the whole package.  Optics are outstanding, fit and finish are outstanding, ergos are outstanding.  I'm with supertool,  if I didn't already have the SLC HD, those Meopta HD's would go home with me.  I preferred them to the Conquest HD side by side.  
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I ordered Pentax DCF ED 10x50[/] binos.

I was very impressed with the DCF SPs that I looked at the other day. My understanding is that the ED is a step up from those, so I figure why not give them a shot?

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Not knocking your choice of the Pentax ED because it has glass that rivals most anything out there.  Did you look through them first?  The biggest complaint about these is the abysmal FOV.  Nowhere near as wide as the Meopta HD.  If that's not a big deal to you then you ought to have a winner.  
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^ JGRaider, FOV doesn't matter to me too much. They are for hunting.

I liked the military spec build of the Pentax, coupled with the quality of the optics.

I might end up with an 8x pair as well.
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Originally posted by Demonical Demonical wrote:

^ JGRaider, FOV doesn't matter to me too much. They are for hunting.

I liked the military spec build of the Pentax, coupled with the quality of the optics.

I might end up with an 8x pair as well.

What the devil is the relationship thinking since they are for hunting fov does not matter?  Pentax pretty much disappeared from the scene after the ED's and those are a pretty old design.  But only you have to like them I guess.

The prime use of binoculars for hunting is glassing for game hidden somewhere in a thicket or sage flat...or somewhere.  FOV is pretty important there.  Not so much I guess if all you are doing is using the binocular to look at something you have already seen.
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Kind of what I was thinking Klamath.  
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Wide FOV is one of my first considerations in a hunting binocular as well.
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261/1000 yards, admittedly a narrow FOV. I will live with it.
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You should send them back and get the Meopta's.  THey have 330 FOV
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u will indeed be pleased with the meoptas
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No chance that I return them. Buying a 10x43, or 8x43 is certainly an option.
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But FOV is overrated anyway. If I get a 10x43, I can get an extra ~90ft @1000 yds. I think that's no big deal.
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Its over a 20% increase in FOV from the Pentax to the Meotpa.  Thats a pretty big deal.  
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Originally posted by Demonical Demonical wrote:

But FOV is overrated anyway. If I get a 10x43, I can get an extra ~90ft @1000 yds. I think that's no big deal.

That statement usually comes from lack of serious binocular usage I am afraid.  But to each his own, and don't take this wrong Smile.

Thing with a wide fov is the extra small increase comes in the peripheral view, where we are already equipped with a optical system to use peripheral vision.  The extra is way more important than you realize.


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Personally, I disagree with your FOV assessment with regards to hunting, Demonical, but to each his own. I can think of no use for binos where FOV is more important than hunting, given the main purpose for hunting binos is searching for game. FOV is right up there near the top of the list of priorities in a hunting bino for me. The 70' @ 1000' FOV difference between the Pentax and Meopta may sound insignificant to you, but in reality, its huge. In addition to the increased FOV, the size of the center field "sweet spot" (% of FOV in sharp resolution) between those two binos is significant. This all means you'll be more likely to find hidden critters with less effort. Every little bit counts. 

The Meopta Meostar HDs are superb, nipping on the heels of some of the best binoculars made.

If it were me, I would return the Pentax and get the Meopta. I believe it give you more for your $. They are very hard to beat for the money, and the only reason they don't cost as much as the uber high end stuff from Zeiss, Swarovski, and Leica is because manufacturing in the Czech Republic is less costly than Germany and Austria. 


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FWIW, where I hunt, it's mainly thick bush, with trails and the odd cutblock.
Most of my hunting involves spotting an animal, then using the binos to glass it, as somebody in another post said.
There's not much areas I go into, where I can sit and glass to locate animals.
Walleye fishing is fantastic this weekend.
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WOW! that sounds like a perfect application for a 6-7x bino with Large FOV imo Wink
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Originally posted by coyote95 coyote95 wrote:

WOW! that sounds like a perfect application for a 6-7x bino with Large FOV imo Wink

That was precisely my thought.  I hunt some thick stuff time to time, and a 10x50 is the very last thing I'd want.  But, hey...everybody is different. Smile
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