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At what am I shooting?  And why?

I have a .308 that is dead-nutz at 1,000, it is my "go-to" gun and I'd take it over everything else in the safe.  I know where it sends rounds, and I have great confidence in the gun.

Does the bullet drift more due to wind than my 300WM: yes.
Does it take longer for the 308 to get there than my 300WM: yes.
Do either of those translate to  an inherently less accurate rifle or shot: no.

The real enemy of the 1,000+ yard lines is the bad trigger pull (assuming you know what you are doing and can make a 1,000+ yard shot.)  And, in truth, I'd much rather have a gun that isn't loud as hell and doesn't require a muzzle brake to shoot comfortably.

There are inherent inaccuracies associated with a bullet that goes from supersonic at the muzzle to subsonic in flight: with that, I agree.  My preferred .308 load sends a 175gr. SMK downrange at 2700 FPS and the round is still supersonic at 1,000 yards (at about 2oo feet above sea level.)
ssuming the .308 can get a round down range and have it supersonic at impact, I'd take a .308 over a .338 any day and twice on Sunday.
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Totally agree with both of you...like i stated before I am a die hard .308 man...and yes the 308 it alot more shooter friendly and also my go to rifle, hands down
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More ain't always better.  Especially if the "more" always makes you flinch.
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To go off topic even more.  I think a 30-06 would be a great round as well.  Manageable recoil, could shoot a 190 at 2650.  At my elevation it would possibly stay supersonic to 1400 to 1500 yards.  That could be a sweet setup.
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I'm simply amazed at the things to be learned at the feet of one who's never done..................
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Originally posted by Mike McDonald Mike McDonald wrote:

I'm simply amazed at the things to be learned at the feet of one who's never done..................



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Well instead of just talking about this, I just spend an hour up above town shooting my precision .308 at various distances.  There was a 15 to 25 mph crosswind tonight so I thought it would be some good practice, so I went and shot 20 rounds.

There is this ridge I like to shoot off of, I have about 2000 yards I can shoot from this ridge.  There is a big sandstone rock at 1125 yards from where I like to shoot from.  It has a dark spot in it that measures about 8 inches. 

I decided to try the cold bore shot at 1125.  So I dialed in my dope and adjusted for 4.5 mils for windage and squeezed one off.  I hit .5 mils to the right.  Made my adjustment and follow up with number 2 and hit the dark spot. 

So ya, an experience shooter shooting a .308 would have absolutely no problem making a cold bore 1000 yard hit with a .308 everytime.  I still have a lot to learn, reading the wind especially.  But I was able to make first round hits at 550, 750, and 890.  
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Originally posted by Mike McDonald Mike McDonald wrote:

I'm simply amazed at the things to be learned at the feet of one who's never done..................
What exactly are you saying Mike...enlighten me I am just here to learn
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:



So ya, an experience shooter shooting a .308 would have absolutely no problem making a cold bore 1000 yard hit with a .308 everytime.    


Tool, we've had our disagreements in the past, and I'll leave there there; but Mike's point is well supported by this statement of yours.

It ain't ever that simple.
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I haven't shot at 1000 yards in a long time, and doping the wind might be tricky, good news is, you break out your little black book find a old set up that fits your conditions an dial it in and trust your experience. That's nice at the range.  But a head shot, cold bore after 5 or 6 years of not firing at that range? Even Mr. McDonald, who's shooting capabilities I have great respect for, would be danged hard pressed to make that guarantee. 
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I have access to more powerful rifles but I want a cartridge that I can enjoy shooting.  For that matter I also have access to close air support which is really preferable at distance.



That's more like it.


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