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    Posted: January/23/2008 at 14:50
Ok, I'm a relative rookie when it comes to using scopes. I just started hunting 4 years ago, and until then I only used handguns and shot guns for work and pleasure. I used to carry a 40 S&W for work.
Anyway I've used 3x9 scopes, and I'm curious about the fixed power choice of a 10 power leupold. What are the advantages/disadvantages of fixed vs variable?
Does the military/police snipers train with a fixed 10 power? I want to start working towards long distance shooting. I'm thinking about a 308 to start with for this. I have a 700bdl in 7rem mag, but I want to get into the more affordable shooting caliber and still be able to use hunting. I plan to start reloading and I like the proven track record of the tried and true 30 calibers.
Is a fixed better or worse for beginning?
any answers will be appreciated.
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This is a great scope the handles tons of abuse and stay true to what it is suppost to do.
 
It dose very well out to 800yards.It is a fixed which is better for long shot it cuts down on the heat marage very well.
 
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.308 is a fun cartridge to shoot and a Savage 10FP is a reasonably priced rifle that shoots very well.  Match that up with a 10x Super Sniper and you have a great combination for under $1000. The .308 is good out to about 800 yds.  A 260 remmington is good out to at least 1000 and about the same recoil but lower availability of ammo. 6.5X284 is good past that and ammo is starting to be made by Black Hills other than that its a laod it yourself wildcat.  The 7mag is a fine cartridge but significantly more recoil than the .308  As for scopes a lot depends on your price range- If money was no object I would match up a GAPrecision rifle with a SN3  US Optics scope. There were several rifle scope combos in Shooter.  Police departments for the most part use Remmington PSS in a .308 with a 3.5-10 or a 4.5-14 Leupold Mk 4 scope however for not much more you can have a Nightforce scope which is better and for a little less you can have an IOR scope which has better glass but service may not be as quick or good as Leupold.  The Super Sniper 10x has a great track record and at $299 you cant beat it - next step up in quality / price is a 6x42 IOR.   Badger Ordnance rings and base are the right choice but spendy.  How much do you have to spend on this project and we will be glad to lead you astray.

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I agree completely with both above, I like the 308 savage with accu trigger and Mcmillan stock option, with a Super Sniper, great combination there for sure. The IOR is a fantastic scope, and would team up well in the application for sure. Should you wish a variable and money is tight Millett TRS-1 is a very good scope. The Savage also can be obtained in 300 win mag which will give you more range as well.  
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Also note that if you reload the 7mm mag that you have will probably cost you about the same as anything else to shoot if you are basing cost on primer powder and bullet.  A 7mm mag is quite capable but lots of recoil. The least expensive factory ammo is of course the older more popular ones 30-06, 270, 243, .308 etc.  But when you reload there is very little cost difference between loading a 7mm mag that you already have and loading a .308. Also if you are reloading you might want to look at other cartridges based on the .308 case particularly 260 remmington or 7mm08 which might make sense for you cause you could load the same bullets in the 7 mag and the 7mm08  and might be able to use the same powder  but that is almost too much to hope for as different rifles seem to like different powder.  I dont know how anyone could not reload when it comes to the cost of some of the new caliber cartridges like 300 WSM at 40 to 50 dollars a box. I'd be looking real strong at 30-06 and 270 if I didnt reload there is more cheap ammo out there for those than anything else it seems.  If you could find a good gunsmith and have the 7mm mag action trued barrel floated and glass bed it and work on the trigger it should be quite accurate, remmingtons seem to need  gunsmith work

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