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Greeting Everyone! I'm new here, desperately looking for help ID'ing this scope.

Here's what I've been told by an old timer at Cabelas, FWIW. 
-WW1 era
-most likely a sighting scope for some type of artillery, not a rifle scope
-leather case, while cool, likely not originally paired with this scope

Markings on scope:
Pernox 3 1/2X
C.P. Goerz Berlin

Any help greatly appreciated!

Trying to figure out how to attach photos...stand by
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http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Tschwarz88/library/

try this!
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Here´s some info on the manufacturer:

http://www.binoculars-cinecollectors.com/C.P._Goerz_Optics.pdf

Will have a look for your scope.....

Found this old broschure, looks like your scope?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/GOERZ-PERNOX-Prismen-Zielfernrohr-C-P-Goerz-Berlin-Werbeanzeige-1912-/172651828218


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Gerry, 

Thanks for this! Yes, picture on the ebay listing does indeed look like my scope. The dimensions on mine seem a bit shorter than the one show there, hard to tell- but absolutely same general layout. 

If so, I'd be very excited to learn that it is indeed a rifle scope- I would love to try it out. Follow up question: which period-correct rifle might I have an excuse to purchase?! Big smile

http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Tschwarz88/library/

I still cannot figure how photos are to be inserted here, but if the above link does not work- I have lots of photos I can email if anyone is willing to share email address. 


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Originally posted by Tschwarz88 Tschwarz88 wrote:

http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Tschwarz88/library/

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Originally posted by Son of Ed Son of Ed wrote:

Originally posted by Tschwarz88 Tschwarz88 wrote:

http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Tschwarz88/library/

try this!
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Sorry, tried to insert an article. Please delete post.

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Edited by Gerry Atric - November/17/2018 at 01:13
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It seems that these riflescopes were converted during WW1:

http://www.monocular.info/goerz_brk6x23.htm


I don´t think it´s the other way around, that the scope (monocular) was of military origin and then converted for civilian use.

If the scope is in good nick AND you have a gunsmith that can mount (adjust) the claw system for windage (maybe also elevation) - Why not a Mauser ? 


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 The problem with vintage/antique scopes is the claw mounts, you have to have matching base blocks on your rifle. The chances of this are pretty slim.
What I do is strip out the optics and take of the claw mounts , fit modern scope rings, either 19 or 11m fitting to the slide size on the rifle, reassemble.
I this way I can fit old quality scopes to fairly modern rifles. However, some times , in the case of military WW1 & 2 Rifles you have to fit on base blocks as well.
In the UK we can find old German scopes advertised for sale but they are expensive. If any one has a Winchester A5 scope for sale I would appreciate knowing about it. Wink
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