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Shark Bait
Optics GrassHopper Joined: October/16/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Posted: October/16/2004 at 20:36 |
I just bought a Tikka T3 Stainless Lite in 270 WSM. It weighs 6.3 lbs. I am wanting to put a fairly light, yet decently powered scope on it for both hunting and benhcrest/load development. I am looking for something in the neighborhood of 4-16 x 40. My budget is about $300- $400. Recommendations are much appreciated. Also, if you think this magnifiaction is overkill , I'd like to hear that as well.
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sscoyote
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I think that's a good magnification for your cartridge choice, as there are some nice higher BC bullets that'll reach out there, IF u're adopting good solid "tactical"-type techniques in the field, i.e. knowing range, and referencing it in or with the scope somehow. The Burris Signature 4-16X with Ballistic Plex reticle would be a nice choice, but honestly if it were me i'd take a good look @ the Burris 4-12X Mini, with Ballistic Plex reticle installed-- UNLESS u're gonna do a lot of target shooting with it then i'd go with a little more magnification. That Mini might be just right tho for the lighter, more compact rigs.
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Roy Finn
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The Elite 4200 4-16 would be a great chioce.
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cheaptrick
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Nikon Monarch....
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redneckbmxer24
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i think that magnification is overkill, and if you want to keep that gun fairly light, your looking in the wrong place. i would go with something like the VXII 4-12x40 w/FD reticle. it will suit you fine for load development, and hunting. i have used mine beaver hunting at night with a full moon, and it works excellent, even with the fine reticle.
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Grubbs
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I would buy the Monarch, Elite 4200, or Zeiss Conquest over the Leupold anyday of the week.
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redneckbmxer24
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grubbs, not trying to start an arguement, but i jsut wanna know what your idea behind staying away from the leupoild would be??
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Grubbs
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I think Leupold makes a good product, but i definitely think they are overpriced....a poor value for your money when compared to others I mentioned, that's all. I will be the first to admit they have fantastic warranty and customer service (I hear, never had to use it), and they definitely know something about marketing, but there are equally tough and optically superior scopes for even less money than the comparable Leupold. Just my opinion for what its worth.
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redneckbmxer24
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i completely agree that leupolds are over priced, and that there are scope out there just as good for less money, but when you pay for a leupold, you are paying for the name, in other words, a company that is goign to stand behind their products no matter what.
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Shark Bait
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What about Weaver Grand Slam?
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redneckbmxer24
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i dont care for weaver, not becuase they're a bad scope, but just becuase i dont like the name. my choice would be the leupold.
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Grubbs
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redneck....can't argue with that.
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Brady
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The Weaver Grand Slam is the best $250.00 scope known to mankind!!
I wouldn't stray from quality just because of a name. Sounds kinda silly to me. If something is good then it's GOOD. It doesn't matter what name may be on it. |
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redneckbmxer24
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thnaks for understanding grubbs, remember, no hard feelings here, or argueing, im just pointing soem things out
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redneckbmxer24
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BTW, brady, you guys all know im weird
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Shark Bait
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Thanks yall. redneck you sound like an interesting fella. Though I have to agree that I have mixed feelings about the Weaver name, I am more interested in the quality of the product in the end. I have many Leupolds and have never had an issue, so cant speak to the customer service aspect. They do seem somewhat overpriced for what you get though. Brady sure sounds convinced about Weaver. Brady does that go for all versions of the Grand Slam (high/low magnification, fixed/adjustable Obj.)? I wonder why they only offer a plex reticle and no ballistic plex in the Grand Slam.? HHHHMMM.
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redneckbmxer24
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the weaver grand slam are all a good line of scopes. they do not offer a balistic reticle simply becuase they havnt, theres really no answer i can give you there.
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koshkin
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Ballistic plex is trademarked by Burris. Only Burris and Pentax use it. Other companies have their own trajectory-compensating reticles (Leupold, Swarovlski). Weaver has not come out with one yet. They do make a couple of scopes with mildot reticle and I've heard of people using mildots for holdover.
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Shamus
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I looked at basically the same scopes recently and I'm going with the Bushnell 4200 over the Weaver for a couple of reasons:
- The Elites have a forever warranty regardless of if you're the original owner. Probably won't matter to you, but it would if you ever want to sell it - the Weaver is original owner only. The Elites also have a 1 year no questions asked money back guarantee.
- The Elite 4-16 has a wider mag range versus the 4.5-14 Weaver.
- The Elite has the Rainguard coating which is a big plus in cold or wet weather where rain or fogging is an issue
(By the way, nice rifle choice - how do you like it?) Edited by Shamus |
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koshkin
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From what I've heard and seen both Elite 4200 and Weaver Grandslam are really nice scopes.
For most situations I would not be concerned too much with magnification range. Out in the field there is not much perceptible difference between 14x and 16x. An image at 16x is 14% bigger than image at 14x. For comparison, a 6x image is 50% bigger than 4x image. The higher you go in the magnification range the smaller is the difference between magnifications.
Rainguard coating though, does make a real and perceptible difference in wet weather.
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