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I might be told Im nuts, but ive recently spoken to a real character about his barrels..Give "mike" at ROCK CREEK BARRELS a call.. Talk to him about your project, he is in touch with the entire industry..There is this "old" hunter that holds his barrels in high reguard, I think his name is J.D. JONES

 

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i just looked at the dakota and to me they look like a ruger #1, i kinda want that winchester look more.
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i just checked out rock creek's web page they have good prices and they arent to far away either.
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finding a company that makes highwall rifles that will sell just the action is tough, i found a company that makes there rifles with the  highwall action but they dont see just the action and if i cant find a company that does i might just say to heck with it and build a bolt action on a m70 pre 64 if i can find one.

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Pyro, Savage is butt ugly to some, they are very easy to build yourself.. Can be quite rewarding!! From what I see on the OT, they can be built into a very efficent rifle..

 

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not to shoot you down but the only savage actions my grandad had were old school 99's i prefer to stick with a winchester action if i can help it, that was his thing. i think he only had a very few remington's one 222 in a 700 and a couple of rolling block 45-70's i think thats it, no ruger's no weatherby's one sharps 45-70 i think 1-2 savage 99's the rest were either low wall or high wall single's and a couple of pre64's one in .257 roberts then a model 43 in 218 bee a couple 1895s  a bunch of old pump 22's its quite a collection of winchesters.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i just looked at the dakota and to me they look like a ruger #1, i kinda want that winchester look more.

Until you hold one in your hands.  It is much more petite throughout, doesn't have the hammer spring hangar in the forend, has a more English style open sweep to the grip area, and is built with much tighter tolerances and better wood to metal fit than the #1.  Plus, you have an almost endless combination of options, since it's a semi-custom rifle.  Another great option is the Miller Arms single shot, which is owned by Dakota. 

 

The only caveat -- both the Dakota M10 and Miller are pretty expensive.  But then again, as the saying goes, "life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun."

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that action is $2000 well $1800 and some change. i bet i can find an old 1885 at a gun show or some place cheaper than that.
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Yep, no doubt.

 

But, not knowing what your budget is, I thought I'd throw that out.  It's a very finely designed and made piece of equipment for the falling block connoiseur.  When I handle and work the action on one, it almost brings tears to my eyes!  I can't fit one in my budget at present, but hope to some day.

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i know they are a very well known out fit and apparently there work warrants top dollar, maybe i will win the lottery some day then i can have whatever i want built.
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i talked to my local dealer today and he has a special price on ruger m77 right now and he has a .280 he told me they were going for $450, so i am going to the range first thing tomorrow morning and if that 25 wssm doesnt shoot good i am taking the scope off and trading it in for the ruger.
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pyro,

$450 is a good price for a NIB M77!  The Ruger M77 MkII isn't noted for being quite as accurate on average as some of its competitors, but I've had good luck with the 3 I've owned over the years.  If I were you, the first thing I'd do out of the box is either have the trigger worked over to lighten and smooth the pull, or replace the factory non-adjustable trigger with an aftermarket trigger.  I like the Timney unit, as it's adjustable down to 2 lbs and is very smooth and crisp.  Keep in mind, it requires minor fitting to get the safety engagement tab the correct height and fit the trigger body width at the pivot point to the action's trigger assy hangar, so if you aren't experienced with triggers, you'd need to have a gunsmith install it.  The non-adjustable factory trigger sucks!  I've heard they corrected this somewhat on the new M77 Hawkeye with what they are calling the "MC6" trigger.  It's brand new, so I haven't handled or even seen one yet.  I'm not totally sold on the angled front bedding screw concept, but after glass bedding my M77s, I haven't had any bedding issues, and I've been able to make 'em shoot pretty well.  Otherwise, I like the action overall -- very simple and rugged.  It's a solid rifle that will serve you well for many years.

 

I totally understand your choice in .280.  Not only is the .280 a good all-around cartridge in its own right, but as you discussed earlier in this thread, I think sentimental reasons is a legitimate basis for your selection.  Every time you hunt with your .280 you'll remember your grandfather and the advice he gave you.  I think that's a good way to honor him, in essence saying "I followed your advice," especially since he enjoyed guns so much.  Later on, you may even want to try your hand at making your own custom stock for it, which would make it even more special.

 

Keep us posted on what you decide!



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is  the trigger work someone like me who has no experience with doing that sort of thing a good idea or should i seek professional help??? do you think i would be better off getting a browning a-bolt instead?? i can buy a new hawkeye in the .280 but its stainless.
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I don't know your level of expertise with triggers, so I dunno.  Basically, my answer to trigger questions is if there's any doubt, always err on the side of safety and let a gunsmith do it.  It doesn't cost much, and although trigger installations, adjustment, and to some degree, even stoning and reworking existing triggers isn't technically difficult, the consequences of mistakes can be deadly.  How far do you live from NE Texas?  You could send it to me and I'll install it for you.

 

As for the M77 vs. A-bolt question, if I were betting, I'd say the average A-bolt will outshoot the average M77.  But, that's not a given, and the M77 has it's own virtues as well, so whether you'd be better off with one vs. the other is a personal decision only you can answer based on feel, balance and features you prefer.  I like the extractor, ejector, controlled round feed, 3-position safety, bolt release, integral scope mount bases, floorplate latch, and price of the Ruger better, and the barrel, bedding, trigger, stock, gas baffling, bolt smoothness and finish better on the Browning.



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i am 1140 miles straight north of you according to yahoo maps, i havent ever done any sort of gunsmith work, so i think it would be best for my sake to take it to someone who knows what there doing, it sounds to me like your saying that the imortant elements of accuracy in a rifle are higher end in the browning, and the stuff in the ruger is more secondary, but still nice, as far as feel and fit i own both, and they both feel just fine when i pull them up so thats a dead heat there, i like the detachable box mag in the abolt but like you i also like the 3 position saftey.
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Both are basically good rifles.  Like everything else, it really boils down to personal preference.  When I decide to buy a new rifle, most of the time the decision on which model to get just boils down to having something different from what's already in my safe.

 

I would definitely recommend you have a gunsmith install or rework triggers if you don't have experience with it.  I have no doubt that you could do it if you are at all handy with tools, but a trigger job is cheap compared to a tragic firearms accident.  I can't stress safety enough when it pertains to anything relating to guns, but especially with regards to the fire control system.

 

 

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i agree on the saftey stuff i am the cso for the dirt outfit i work for, earplugs glasses etc. i am pretty good with hand tools as we do all of our own mechanicing, but triggers are another thing
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well i got my .280 today in a m77 nice looking rifle great price $450!!!

anybody got some reloading info for me??

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i ran the dollar bill test between the barrel and stock today and the ruger failed so i took some emery cloth to the stock and looks like i need to take out more wood yet
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i dont know if it will help it shoot any better but you would think if the barrel floats as it should it will preform better
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