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We’re pleased to announce the NEW Leica Rangemaster 1600-B. This represents the next innovation in our 20 year history as the leader in laser rangefinding products. Like its predecessor the CRF 1600, the CRF1600-B will determine ranges out to 1600 yards. However, it differs in a few dramatic ways.

The Leica CRF 1600-B features our newly developed ballistic function ABC™ (Advanced Ballistic Compensation), accounts for air pressure, temperature, and angle of inclination to offer holdover values displayed in one of three output modes:

1 - provides linear holdover value in inches (or centimeters)

2 – provides true horizontal distance equivalent to target in yards (or meters)

3 – provides holdover in ¼ M.O.A (or mil radian)

We utilize the same 12 pre-programmed ballistics curves as the CRF 1600, but holdover values will now be given from 100 yards to a full 880 yards (compared to only 500 yards on the CRF 1600).

Other functions, performance specifications, size, weight, dimensions, and price will be the same as in the existing CRF 1600. Expected shipping of the NEW Leica Rangemaster CRF 1600-B is anticipated to begin in June.

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It certainly has some features that make it viable for ranging and ballistics, i.e. the inclinometer + temp + pressure. At least they allow you to set which type of clicks you want, e.g. 1/4 MOA or mils for holdovers. LRFs that report that in inches or cm are worthless. A shooter needs an angular number to adjust a scope or holdover.
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I was just looking at this one Leica's site yesterday.  I was wondering how long it would take for rangefinder manufacturers to give the GSeven boys some competition.  It doesn't seem up to the specs of the G7 BR2 but is going in the right direction.  And at least this one offers MIL corrections!  A big bonus for this shooter! 


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OK, question here. Comparing the old 1600 to the new 1600B. If a guy was at the base of a hill aiming both rangefinders up at an object 800 yards away, will the old 1600 read 800 yards and the new 1600B will give you the actual distance you need to aim for with the inclination (or declination) calculated for you?   Also does air pressure and temperature raise that much havoc on ballistics? Thanks
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I believe they both would give you the line of sight measurement and then the adjusted measurement taking into affect the angle. 

Air pressure and temp don't play in until you get past 5-600 yards, then you need to be calculating them in. 

The manual for the 1600-B isn't out yet as far as I can find but in trying to read between the lines I am not just sure how much new has really been added.

It gives ballistic calculations out to 880 yards instead of 500 yards.

It outputs to MOA and MIL not just inches and cm. 

The 1600 gave temp and pressure readings and had ballistic curves for trajectory calculations too so that really isn't new.

Maybe the 1600-B actually inputs the temp and pressure into the ballistic calculation whereas the 1600 did not? 

It will be interesting to see how it really works. 

If they can get their next ones to allow inputs for a guy's actual ballistic from ones own ballistic program via a USB port or similar they will really be onto something! 

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