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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/01/2019 at 10:34
Well, with the RDS, that is resolved by co-witnessing, which is one of the reasons it has been a fairly easy transition.

With the Bullseye sight, time will tell if I can make it work well enough.

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I am also really liking Shields on range and carry guns. I have yet to have one fail, and if it does, I have a front site and a rear site and am already indexing.

This new site, yea, I’ll probably get one, but it won’t be called upon - I hope - in a moment of need.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/01/2019 at 10:40
Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I am also really liking Shields on range and carry guns. I have yet to have one fail, and if it does, I have a front site and a rear site and am already indexing.

This new site, yea, I’ll probably get one, but it won’t be called upon - I hope - in a moment of need.

With Shield, I have RMS and two RMSc sights.  SMSc and RMSw are on their way to me.  No issues whatsoever with any of the RMS sights or with the SIS I have.  

RMSw is probably going to go onto the gun I use the most.  I am really gong to test that "w" in its name.

SIS is probably going to go onto my AK and stay there for a bit.

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I got to look at the P365 SAS over the weekend. I kinda like it. For what it's meant to be, I think it has potential to be a better mouse trap. I'd like to shoot it before I made up my mind, but for a concealed carry close in pistol meant for bad breath to antisocial distances it could be a good insurance policy.
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I'm going to get one...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I'm going to get one...

Give us a report when you do. I'd like to know how it compares to iron sights out to 25yds, and how fast or easy it is to pick up the sights at bad breath distance.
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What I think Dan meant to say was.  He's already got one on order and he'll update us as soon as he gets his hands on it...
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I used one at the range... really didn't have any issues.  Very accurate... I shot about 1.5 inch group at 25, but only in all shot 20 rounds.  Yes, there is some "adjustment" to the sight, but I didn't find it difficult.  To me, it is instinctive.  But I've been told I'm odd a number of times...  (I kind of like being odd).
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Well, you're odd enough for me.
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Damn, I MUST be getting smarter!!!  I knew better than to touch that one.....


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Wonder what type of reply that one will generate?
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Very accurate... I shot about 1.5 inch group at 25, but only in all shot 20 rounds.

Whoah now. 25 yards or 25 feet?


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Dan, I've known and been friends with a lot of odd people. I even have "One Odd Dog", but none where that kind of odd. Sorry, I'm not your "Midnight Cowboy".

Bud, you surprise me. I thought you'd jump on that like cheap whore on a 20 dollar bill.
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Guess I'm lucky it wasn't a $50...  Bucky
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Very accurate... I shot about 1.5 inch group at 25, but only in all shot 20 rounds.

Whoah now. 25 yards or 25 feet?



thank you for the heads up... did not intend to leave units out... it was a little over a yard past the 7 yard mark... approximately 25 feet.  I did not shoot at all past 10 yards. 
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I wonder if the old ASP Guttersnipe sights inspired these new sites?

Classic Guns: Smith & Wesson Model 39 'ASP' Combat Pistol

by SI Staff - Thursday, April 19, 2018


If the most famous member of Her Majesty’s secret service carries one, it may be the highest compliment a pistol can receive. In Gardner’s Bond novel, “Role of Honor,” written in the 1980s, the secret agent’s signature Walther PPK was temporarily replaced by an innovative, yet obscure, concealed-carry firearm called the ASP 9 mm Combat Pistol. It is a Smith & Wesson Model 39 double-action, semi-automatic pistol modified for the kind of fictional spy work for which Bond is best known, but it was created in the real world for professionals with an actual need for a deep-carry sidearm.


Back in the 1960s, New York City holster maker Paris Theodore had a reputation for producing the kind of special equipment used in spycraft: pen guns, briefcase guns and even a cigarette lighter capable of firing live ammunition. His company, Armament Systems Procedures Corporation (or “ASP”), occasionally filled orders for clandestine government agencies and, as the story goes, it was approached by one to create an ideal pistol for undercover work overseas. Recognizing the popularity of the 9 mm cartridge in other parts of the world, Theodore chose the Smith & Wesson Model 39 for the project and began to make changes. 


He shortened the Model 39’s slide and barrel, replaced its collet bushing with a fixed-barrel bushing, bobbed the hammer and installed a trigger-guard extension that served as a stabilizing finger rest for the index finger of the shooter’s supporting hand. Theodore also replaced the pistol’s factory sights with his patented “Guttersnipe Advanced Sighting Plane,” a short channel, which tapered from rear to front. When correctly centered, the target was seen to be surrounded on three sides by the yellow frame and appeared as three equally balanced triangles.

The short sight radius eliminated the need for a conventional front sight and, with practice, the Guttersnipe was capable of fight-stopping accuracy at combat distances. The profiles of all of the pistol’s external parts were radiused and smoothed to prevent snagging.

Additionally, the ASP was outfitted with clear Lexan grips, and a cutout in the side of the magazine made it possible for operators to verify at a glance the number of remaining rounds in their pistol. At a time when the word “ambidextrous” was not often used in the gun industry, the ASP was made in both right-hand and left-hand models—another aspect of Theodore’s work that was ahead of its time.

All of these features combined to make a pistol that offered significant advantages to anyone in the world of espionage. Civilians wanted Theodore’s modified Smith & Wesson Model 39, too, so he patented the design and began selling it out of his shop on West 39th Street in Manhattan, NY. For nearly 15 years, Theodore made the ASP pistol, but in 1982 he licensed its production to the ASP Corporation of Appleton, WI.

He stopped working on firearms in 1987 and died in 2006. Although this real-life “Q” is no longer with us, Paris Theodore lives on today as the mastermind behind a truly innovative pistol design.

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Nifty pistol  
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Oh I remember the ASP. S&W started making compact versions of the Mod. 39/59 and even came out with a line called the Chief Special that were similar to the ASP, but never used the ASP sight.
As for sights, I still like the SAS sight.
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I was able to play with the 365SAS last night at the LGS and liked the sights. I found them easy to acquire.
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

I was able to play with the 365SAS last night at the LGS and liked the sights. I found them easy to acquire.

Ditto...
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