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On setting the zero... Adjust the rounds impact  to point of aim, then loosen the allen screw and reset turret to zero. As for setting the diopter, against a blue-sky, adjust the diopter ring until the reticle is clear at maximum zoom. Make sure to take breaks, as your will eye will auto focus. After the reticle is adjusted, screw down the lock-down ring...done. 
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

On setting the zero... Adjust the rounds impact  to point of aim, then loosen the allen screw and reset turret to zero. As for setting the diopter, against a blue-sky, adjust the diopter ring until the reticle is clear at maximum zoom. Make sure to take breaks, as your will eye will auto focus. After the reticle is adjusted, screw down the lock-down ring...done. 


diopter ring is that unscrewed to adjust?
Sighting in at zero.... Newly mounted on my 700P I haven't taken it out to the range,Am I correct in doing in these steps.

First shot to target, adjust elevation and horizontal  setting if needed by loosening the allen set screws, once on zero tighten set screws.?

Also, I have heard of when trying to sight in at approx. 200 yds one could zero in at 30yds and be pretty close to zero @200yds. Reason being I don't know of any place at this time that has a 200yd open area.
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I noticed at the rear section I can turn the tube, is this the diopter for the eye focusing?
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Originally posted by lilpuu lilpuu wrote:

Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

On setting the zero... Adjust the rounds impact  to point of aim, then loosen the allen screw and reset turret to zero. As for setting the diopter, against a blue-sky, adjust the diopter ring until the reticle is clear at maximum zoom. Make sure to take breaks, as your will eye will auto focus. After the reticle is adjusted, screw down the lock-down ring...done. 


diopter ring is that unscrewed to adjust?
Sighting in at zero.... Newly mounted on my 700P I haven't taken it out to the range,Am I correct in doing in these steps.

First shot to target, adjust elevation and horizontal  setting if needed by loosening the allen set screws, once on zero tighten set screws.?

Also, I have heard of when trying to sight in at approx. 200 yds one could zero in at 30yds and be pretty close to zero @200yds. Reason being I don't know of any place at this time that has a 200yd open area.
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No you don't have to loosen to adjust, they turn without loosening, ONCE you zero your scope, meaning your point of impact is where your point of aim is then you carefully loosen teh allen screws making sure not to turn the turrets, then lift it up and rotate it so that your "0" mark lines up with the mark on the scope.  then you put it back on and tighten it. down, again making sure not to turn it while you do this. 
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Okay, if I understand you correctly. Once I zero it in I then loosen the allen pull up on the cap and set it to zero so this is on target at zero setting.Yippee I hope that is what you meant. If so, thanks and I appreciate you bothering with an amateur.

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That is correct for teh zeroing.  For focusing the reticle you are right the rear eyepiece will turn, there is a "nut" that puts up against that. Loosen that first so the eyepiece will turn more freely and they dont' turn together.  Then looking at a blue sky for short burst, turn the eyepeice to get the reticle as sharp as you can on 9x,  once you have that spot tighten the nut back to the eyepiece and enjoy. 
 
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Thanks SVT, being new at this game I feel so inadequate about sighting in and getting the right accuracy. I have a few dumb questions about this scope and I don't understand why they don't make a manual for it.Devil
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To keep cost lower.  They are really simple to use as well and even if they did make a manual for it, it would get overlooked by 90% of the users.  They stuck with the K.I.S.S. method and it works. 
 
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Appreciated,

I loosened the eye piece and now understand how it works.

When sighting in my other question my friend told me if I wanted to sight in my rifle at 200yds I could do it by sighting in at 30 yds. Comments? I don't know of a place close by that has an open range of 200yds.


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That depends on the ballistics of the particular rifle/round.  And even then you need to always verify by actually shooting. 

Just assuming that is the case on any rifle is flat out wrong.
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NO sight in for the distance you want to sight in at.  If you cant sight in at 200 then sight in for what you can.  It will make changing it easier later if you want.
One trick to sighting in that will save you some ammo and time is to get the rifle in a rest or on something solid, pull the bolt out the gun (assuming this a bolt gun), and look down the barrel.  I normally try to find something anywhere from 30-50yds away.  once you get the bore of your rifle centered on that, adjust your scope so that the crosshairs are centered on it as well, make sure to keep check to make sure it doesn't move.  This will normally get you on paper if done correct and you can fine tune from there.   Once of the greatest designs of the 3-9 is it being FFP and having turrets that match the reticle,  If you see your shot is exactly 1mil low and 1 mil right dial in 1 mil up and 1 mil left and your should be dead nutz on the next shot.  I do recommend usign 3 shot groups to confirm before making adjustments.
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Yes, that is true. I will zero in at 30yds and then eventually find a place where I have clear 200yds to verify it.

Another question pls,

The magnification, once I'm zeroed in and I magnify up to 9 will my target still be at zero on 9 as to 1?
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you mean will your zero change from 3X to 9X?  no.  the relationship compared to the reticel will but your zero will not.
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Yes, I was told to do what you suggested as to taking the bolt out and looking through the barrel. Mainly at night to focus as far as possible on a light.
Thanks for the help.. Really appreciate it.Yippee
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lilpuu... Where in az are you?
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Prescott. No open ranges out here that is close enough,except I need to find a better place that is open.
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If you would like to meet up, I would be more than happy to give you a hand setting up your scope. I just live over the hill in Cottonwood. More than enough National Forest land to zero your scope.
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I currently have a 10x42 ss and was wondering if the new HD version has as many internal MOA of adjustment that the previous version does. Also, is the new HD glass night and day compared to the non HD 10x42? Thanks for your advice!
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I have both HD and standard.  My HD has 36 mils of adjustment so that is over 120 moa. 

Yes the glass difference is huge.  I would say night and day difference.
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Thanks supertool73, I appreciate it.  Glad to hear they still kept the really big range of internal MOA.  I guess I will wait and see what SWFA comes with to me with a trade-in offer... but looks like I'll be picking up the 10X very soon!
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