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I have a pair of Leupold Majave 10x50 binoculars.  Late in the evening looking west they are horrible at flaring light.  I am planning on getting a new scope and binoculars before next year and would like to get optics that minimize this.  Could anyone recommend a scope in the 3-15, 4-20 range with turrets and a pair of binoculars.
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What is your budget?

Are you wanting 10x binos, 8x binos?
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8x Binos.  1k budget for scope, 500ish for bino's.


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I was setting on a big field yesterday afternoon.  I had my 10x50 Leupold Mojavies (sp?) and could not see anything to the West in the fading light.  It completely whites out.  A friend of mine was with me and said it's the worst he's ever seen, they were useless.
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When I saw whiting out, I'm talking about a whitish Halo that appears around the entire lense, obscuring everything behind it.  I can look to the East and it isn't there.
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My intent was to wait for someone with more in-depth knowledge than I, however, I have first hand experience with this annoying challenge of flair. 

I do not know what causes flair in scopes or binoculars, my guess is internal tube coating quality, lens curviture, or other elements inside the scope / binocular itself. I do know that when it occurs it is maddening. Much earlier I bought what the budget would accommodate, which was low threshold, I simply had to make do with what I had.

An entry level pocket binocular, alongside the same class rifle scope led me to a frustrating hunting experience. Flair was to be expected even when the sun was still relatively high. I borrowed a buddy's binocular with 50 mm objectives and the situation was somewhat better but still an issue. Being young and naive I just accepted this malady as normal. I actually took the scope off my rifle and used irons. Much better.

Fast forward 40 years... I have owned most brands of scopes and several brands of binoculars and find that as quality increased flair was less an issue. 

With  my VX3s, VX6, Swaro Z5, flair is not an issue. Even with my  Bushnell Elite 3200 (atop my RWS .22 pellet rifle) flair may be present but not enough that it discourages me from glassing under the sun.

My binocular, as of last year is a Trijicon 8 - 42 (manufactured by Meopta), no flair, at least that I have noticed.

To your issue, I am dissappointed that you are having the experience with a Leupold product, however, I'll bet you can sell this bino for some reparation toward a new one.

My opinion - again based on experience, not expertise - you can spend a little less on a scope and perhaps a little more on a binocular and eleminate flair greatly if not totally.

Perhaps a moderately proced scope - Tract or Ziess, $600 - $700 and about the same for a good binocular again Tract comes to mind, or a multitude of others.

There are plenty of opinios on the topic much more weighty than my own, I am positive they will appear.
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Expand your bino budget and get a Meopta Meostar 8x42.

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I would think the coatings - or the lack there of - is the major reason for flare (other than looking directly into the sun).  But even with anti-refection coatings from the alpha companies can't reduce all flare. But I would guess that less expensive optics would exhibit more flat than expensive ones.


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