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imniceiswear
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Hello! My dad recently bought these Pegasus binoculars. I tried to look for the brand online but I couldn't find an official website or any information...just other people selling them...which I think is pretty weird.
I have to say that I am am not a professional when it comes to binoculars, these are the first binoculars that I ever touched (that were not toys) but I can say that the image quality is very good and they seem to be made from pretty good quality materials...also they seem to be in good condition... If anyone has any information about these, when they were made, what could I use them for and so on, please leave a reply. Thanks |
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WJC
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200301 Hi, Let’s say there are 2,000 “names” of binoculars coming out of Asia—like Pegasis for example— the VAST majority came from only a handful of manufacturers. Suppliers provide their catalogs to serious customers that carry basic designs like: AT-4, AD-7, or BA8. The customer gets to choose the magnification, AR coatings, level of waterproofing (there are 8 Japanese Industrial Standards), and particulars of cosmetics—colors, textures, stripes, etc. If you take two empty suitcases to Japan or China and $500, you can return with the start of a sales dynasty and call your product—or line of products—anything you want. As far as quality ... If you have the money they have the product. Cheers, Bill PS as a rule, beware of ZOOM binoculars. BINOCULARS: Fallacy& Fact explains why. And while that was a shameless plug for my first bino book. Forty five years in the industry (military and civilian) and repairing and collimating more than 12,000 binos probably gives me the right to say such. Edited by WJC - March/02/2020 at 12:12 |
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I have the book, read it twice and use it as reference. Very good.
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WJC
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So ... You're the ONE?! Thank you! Bill
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DPI
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Someone is robbing you, cos I bought one as well.
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supertool73
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Bill I do love learning from you and you do have a lot of knowledge which can benefit us all. While I have not read your book, I did read the negative reviews. I am saying this as constructive criticism so please take it as that. But if you wrote the book in the same way you often post here about how everyone else is dumb and no one really knows anything about optics they just think they do, then I can see how people could take offense and not like your book. While you may be right about lots of that stuff, people don't really take well to being condescended to, which is often the case I get from your posts here. While you certainly have more knowledge than 99.9% of us when it comes to optics, its okay for use to talk about them too even if we are wrong. Heck most of the time anything anyone says it pure opinion, its just the way it is. Often your posts are prefaced with something like how everyone gets mad at you because you tell us how stupid we are and you cannot understand why that offends people. But then you go on to tell us how dumb we are and that no one else is right except you. Fact is, right or not people don't care for that and it will piss them off. lol Just a thought, if that is the case. If not, then pardon my comments.
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WJC
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Hi, Supertool,
I sincerely thank you for your comments. First, I think you should know that I tried to post a logical memo to this forum. But I kept being told I had ALREADY posted the 2 graphics I tried to post ... in the CORRECT SIZES and positions. Then, the little TREE to allow a graphic to be posted stopped working at all. Also, even though I used the delete option THREE TIMES to keep that convoluted memo off the forum until I had been allowed to make the appropriate changes. But, with your post, it is plain to see that effort was not respected, either. Thus, I spent almost 2 hours trying to post one simple message. If you know how to clear out the reservoir of past photos, please share. Also, you may note none of my detractors are willing to complain of my facts, only the delivery. For example, one person bellyached that I said 100% of the “collimation tips” currently on the Internet were wrong. How self-serving; how arrogant; how condescending! So, please let me clarify: “100% of the “collimation tips” currently on the Internet are wrong.” Boy, I feel better now! “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it; ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.” —Winston Churchill There are many bright and talented people working on this issue and I don’t WANT to deflate them. But should I be silent when I know they are causing others to take their binos farther from clinical collimation and, in some cases, damage their instruments? They are promoting “conditional alignment” only! In some cases, that is all that is required to please the observer. But that is not clinical collimation and there can be severe negative and costly ramifications. Should I just sit back and allow this to go on affecting the undertaking without speaking with enough force and direction to help some people understand!“Any fool can know. The point is to understand.” — Albert Einstein I care deeply for my friends in binocular observing. Those who know the most about optics wouldn’t dare waste their time on these forums and I have been chided many times for doing so. But working face to face with observers for decades has taught me what needs to be said to be heard above the din of the anxious ultracrepidarian—and there are many. The thing I want you to know is that I only mean to help ... with the force to be successful! I have been away from the bench for 12 years, don’t have a dog in the show, and don’t earn a dime for stepping into the flames for the benefit of my neighbor. Cheers and Blessings, Bill PS I tried to attach a file to this memo, too. However, I couldn't even get as far as BROWSE. |
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DPI
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Bill, I came across the same posting issue you describe, but what its says is a fact. In the upload column above the browse and post buttons is a table of the items that have been uploaded to the server. if you scroll through those, you will find the upload you want. This list comes from the upload server, so rather than browsing to the local file on your PC again, you simply select the item from this server list and it should post in the preview window on the right. As for the other, often I have experienced the pain of telling people, in detail what is going to happen, only to be shouted down and then to be proved right. Most notable in the late eighties telling a number of high ranking officers and ministers that the plans they were still making for war in Europe were a waste of time as their next war was going to be in the middle east. This was not received well. Guess what happened in 1990/91? Again the same in Afghanistan, and I was there for eight years, telling people fresh in theater that what they were thinking was wrong. Again poorly received until I was proved right. In general people do not like their assumptions challenged, particularly if those assumptions are wrong. But don't let it stop you.
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Really??? I know we have a number of extremely knowledgeable individuals here who are more than willing to share their expertise.
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WJC
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Hi, Sparky, “Really ???,” sounds like a challenge to me. That’s unfortunate. I am very familiar with some of the optically knowledgeable members on this and other forums. Many of them, like Ilya, I consider friends. But your post gives me an opportunity to illustrate there are different levels of understanding and while ALL opinions are of equal validity, they may not be equal in accuracy. I believe facts trump opinions and stand firm to “suffer the slings and arrows” for the benefit of my neighbor. After more than 4 decades in several disciplines of the optics industry, and more than 12,000 binocular repair and collimation jobs, I think my BAs, AAs, and certificates are serving me adequately. It will also go a long way toward explaining to Supertool why, in some situations, I come across a might prickly. Again, I haven’t been at the bench in twelve years, don’t have a dog in the show, and make no money for standing up for truth. That’s its own reward. “Honesty is the first chapter in the Book of Wisdom.” — Thomas Jefferson Following, please see a list of some of my friends and associates—some going on 40 years—with their credentials. You may note two things. 1) The world says they know what they’re talking about and, 2) none are members of this or any other binocular forums. It is from these, and other unnamed folks, I have been chided (usually in good natured humor) for visiting these forums at all. Thus, my comment was honest and accurate. There is MUCH male bovine excrement in amateur optics. I just do my best to straighten the curves of understanding. For as DPI has said: “In general people do not like their assumptions challenged, particularly if those assumptions are wrong.” “Any fool can know. The point is to understand.” — Albert Einstein Please, after viewing my list, give the names and credentials of those who you think know as much or more. NOT having a Ph.D., or even a master’s degree, I have to be satisfied by the fact that many of those who do have advanced degrees send me Christmas cards. — Professor John Greivenkamp, the University of Arizona’s College of Optical Sciences, Ph.D. Precision Optics; Ph.D. Ophthalmic Optics. John is President and Fellow of SPIE (the Society of Photo-Optical Instrument Engineers) and curator of the UA’s Museum of Optics. — Professor Jose Sasian, the University of Arizona’s College of Optical Sciences, Ph.D. Professor of Optics, Professor of Astronomy, Fellow of OSA and past President and Fellow of SPIE. — Richard A. Buchroeder, Ph.D., Owner of Optical Design Service of Tucson. Designer of the Buchroeder Tri-Schiefspiegler telescope, Meade’s first 7-Maksutov telescope, MANY other astronomical instruments from backyards to observatories on Haleakula. — Ken Moore, Ph.D. Designer of Zemax, the world’s most popular optical systems design and optimization program, and former scientist with Lawrence Livermore Labs. — Harrie Rutten, Ph.D., engineer for OCE/Canon in the Netherlands and primary author of Telescope Optics Evaluation & Design. — Ed Huff, Ph.D., NASA senior scientist. Cheers and have a great day ... whether you need it or not. Bill
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supertool73
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Bill just to clear up my comments. I could care less that you come off prickly or condescending. I know you are an authority with this stuff and would always default to what you say goes. I always read your posts knowing I am going to learn something and think you being bold about it is just fine. I was simply trying to express why I think some folks may give your books a bad review. (and again since I haven't actually read it, I may be completely wrong) But I wouldn't let it hurt to much. Virtually every good book on amazon some few don't like for this or that reason. I still need to buy it at some point, I just don't have the time/desire to read it right now.
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WJC
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Following is the memo I TRIED to send you, yesterday. Although omitting the two graphics, and having the computer geeks say it went through, I find this morning that it didn’t. This program has some major problems that changing browsers doesn’t seem to help. I doubt Optics Talk is making much money for its owner, so I don’t expect updates will be forthcoming. Thus, I guess it is what it is. Anyway, here ya go ... again. ********Yo Yer Supertoolness, Please don’t think you need to couch your words with me. They were thoughtful and accurate! And you know I am all over accuracy. I just try to get people to understand the WHYS of the matter. Some don’t. But, that is the path I have willfully chosen. In the distant past, someone I admire and respect, and who consistently did the right thing for the right reason, faced those who, just as today, could read much faster than they could reason and suffered much more than me because of that. If rattlesnakes were really out to get you, they wouldn’t bother rattling. Finally, don’t bother buying IT ... buy THEM, unless you don’t want the whole skinny on 3-axis collimation. If not, the first will be adequate. I will try to attach covers. Judging by the last couple of days, I have a 40% chance of success. Cheers and know you’re appreciated, Bill 200410 Well, I tried. There was a 0% chance! |
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I actually bought both your books, also The one by J.W. Seyfried. I also have some UK military manuals and also some B&S technical references from Glasgow University, I Like to read as widely as possible on a subject to get a better appreciation of available knowledge, but it is difficult to get anything on Binoculars, their servicing and repair. I have also taken courses on Optics, but some times the math gets way out there. Additionally the people who have the experience are becoming fewer and fewer as younger people are not interested in taking it up. Too much like hard work.
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WJC
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DPI, You MAY have been here long enough to notice I am taken to
task about so many things. When I say NONE of the binocular collimation tips on
the Internet really deal with clinical collimation, only conditional alignment,
the peanut gallery calls me self-serving, arrogant, and/or condescending ...
even though the comment is 100% accurate. Sadly, there is no law saying the
ultracrepidarian must keep his mouth shut.
When I said you can count the bino techs in my country who actually knew how to perform a clinical 3-axis collimation could be counted on one hand ... with fingers left, again, clueless people were willing to take me to task. A high mechanical aptitude can allow anyone to perform even a complex repair. 3-AXIS COLLIMATION IS ANOTHER MATTER! Is it hard? Absolutely not! Does it require all that geometry to be drawn on paper or head-scratching calculations to be performed? Absolutely not! But as long as Know-it-Alls are afoot, it will be that way. This discourages many of those who need the information most. I learned in “A” school that only 3% of Opticalmen wanted to BE Opticalmen. Cory, with his repair work and classes, and me with my books and articles are doing all we can to teach those who don’t already know everything about what they THINK is collimation! But, in dealing with “snowflakes,” you MUST be super nice! Now, get your deadwood butt over to the Amazon.com site and say something nice about the books—if, in fact, you think it true—as an antidote to the last few who can buy books without seeing the need to try to understand. Cheers and blessings, Bill Edited by WJC - April/10/2020 at 17:32 |
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Tool: I know Bill and have both of his books, so it seems if he comes on a site like this one, with some solid advice, some regulars like you seem to have a fit. You could stop reading reviews, but just try to learn more about optics. But, I suppose your knowledge is similar to your avatar....not much and Real Super.... Jerry |
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i think you need to re read what i posted. I have yet to “throw a fit” of what bill has said about optics. I was pretty clear about what my intent and meaning was. If your not capable of understanding that, then oh well.
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Jerry, I don’t know about other forums, but when has anyone ever “had a fit” in response to one of Bill’s posts, here, on OT? Why did you feel the need to call out Jason and then insult him? Jason offered constructive criticism politely. In so doing, he was very deferential to Bill’s knowledge.
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WJC
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Not only that, but I didn't see it as criticism; he was just stating fact. If people cared as much about doing their research as they do about pontificating, I wouldn’t have to be the way I am. Heck, even my kids (all adults) would be happier! I know not everyone needs to be blessed with my Billisms. I also know that those who understand me ... are sick enough to UNDERSTAND ME and know I mean no harm—just the opposite. At this moment, on another forum, someone I respect is going to cause me to waste time to get him an answer he’ll believe. He doesn’t seem to understand that the BIG DOGS like Zeiss use different word and concepts when advertising to consumers than when speaking with engineers from within or in other companies. I have more to do in the yard today than this old, stroke-ridden butt can easily handle. Yet, before I can get on to it, I have 4 queries to answer. If people thought as much of surfing for proven answers as they do surfing to make their OPINIONS known, there would be only ... ONE! Jerry has been a friend and supporter for a long time. He has seen so much of the tribulation I have gone through for nothing more than trying to help my neighbor that he can be overly sensitive. For example, I was thrown off Cloudy Nights for 90 days ... 7 years ago. And for what? Trying to protect my reputation from a know-nothing who has tried repeatedly to usurp it for himself and to protect their Terms of Service which this fellow has been tying in knots for years. As one of their moderators commented to me: “Not only is ___________ a troll; he is a skillful troll.” They won’t even give me their version of a justification for keeping me away. But I think I know. They know I don’t beat around the bush when it comes to telling the truth and that several members have asked why, after so many attaboys and years on the forum, I am no longer there. It is just easier to keep me away than have to own up to the deception. I can still read the posts; I just can’t answer any. I hurt to know there are so many questions asked there I could answer from experience in 20 seconds but which keep being answered inconclusively by the opinionators ... for days! I like OT very much—except the graphics posting portion. It doesn’t have as much traffic as some other forums, but it has much more meat and understanding. At the end of one of my articles in Deer & Deer Hunting, they said I was a “seasoned whitetail hunter.” Although I have a fine saddle gun with a scope, as long as I have six can of beans in the cupboard it will never be pointed at a deer. Yet, I could walk into an NRA convention and they could immediately tell I was one of them. I do hope Dan & Gordy can unscrew the F+W—over running their financial headlights—screwup, so I can get back to my yearly gear issue. And while I am running off at the ... FINGERS, I just want you guys to know I love you all and that if you are ever convinced I am being snotty where it is not warranted, just go take a shower and think about it. Remember, if rattlesnakes were really out to get ya, they wouldn’t bother rattling! Cheers and Blessings, Bill |
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I for one have been guilty of being thin skinned on more than one occasion and have run off at the mouth in response. Thanks for the clarification and keep the wisdom coming.
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