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Topic: old gun question
Posted By: darthballs
Subject: old gun question
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 14:56
I have an old 16 guage shotgun given to me by my grandpa.  it was his first gun and hisn dad had given it to him.   i dont know much about it and was hoping the vastly knowledgable congregation here could give me some insight as to its value.
  the only markings i can find on it are "john browning patten 1900"  and springfield automatic   mfg savage arms utica NY usa.   I dont have enough posts to post a pic so if anyone wants to see it I can email a pic



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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 15:20
Assume from your description that this is an autoloader??
 
Found some info that on February 8, 1900 Browning filed the  first of four patents on
his auto 5 shotgun. Manufactured by Fabrique Nationale in 1903 and by Remington Arms Company in 1905. Will check a little further and see if this was later mftg by Savage.  Was avail in 12, 20 & 16 gauge


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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 15:25
You can get more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Auto-5 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Auto-5
http://www.huntingsociety.org/HistBrowning.html - http://www.huntingsociety.org/HistBrowning.html


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Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 15:51
Hey, dogger, that was pretty fast!! I didn't know that Savage had produced the Auto 5. You guys are GOOD!    Wink


Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 15:52
See what happens when you have no life!!

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Posted By: darthballs
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 19:01
thanks dogger!   that link was very helpful.   just wondering how to find out the year this particular gun was made and the value


Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 20:41
Savage most certainly produced shotguns based on Brownings Auto 5 patten.  My father-in-law had one.  They are not on the same level quality wise as the FN or even the Rem. versions, but they are nice guns.  I'll check my "Blue Book" to see if I can get a value for ya.

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Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 21:00
My book shows the Model 720 Autoloader Standard - 12 or 16 ga., Browning A-5 style semi-auto action, 26-32 in barrels, various chokes, checkered pistol grip stock. Mfg. 1930 - 1949.
100%     98%      95%     90%     80%    70%     60%
$225      $180     $165    $155    $140    $120    $110
 
Hope this helps!


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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 21:55
how about an ACME side by side 12A it kinda rusty. Very rusty. Found it in a house we repo'd.

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Posted By: darthballs
Date Posted: March/15/2008 at 21:56
i t does!   thanks alot for all the help guys.   not that the value really mattered as it has centimental value far exceeding actual value  but just always fun to know what ya got i guess


Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/16/2008 at 08:33
Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

how about an ACME side by side 12A it kinda rusty. Very rusty. Found it in a house we repo'd.
 
My book doesn't show a model 12A.... just SxS 12 ga., with damascus barrel.  Ranges from $275 for 100% down to $45 for 10%.  It says, ACME ARMS, previous trade name for Cornwall Hardware Co., NY.
 
BTW.... these are from the 23rd Edition which was published in 2002. 


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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: March/16/2008 at 10:56
darthballs, send a letter to Savage:
Savage Arms, 100 Springdale Road, Westfield, MA 01085
 
- include all the info you have especially the serial #.  They should be able to provide a date of manufacture.  Unfortunately Savage will not accept email requests.


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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: March/20/2008 at 17:12
Thanks Todd
This one is in very poor condition. One hammer keeps falling off, It needs a screw.


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Folks ain't got a sense of humor no more. They don't laugh they just get sore.

Need to follow the rules. Just hard to determine which set of rules to follow
Now the rules have changed again.


Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: March/20/2008 at 18:45
Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Thanks Todd
This one is in very poor condition. One hammer keeps falling off, It needs a screw.
 
Sounds like it's got a screw loose--------------like Big Squeeze!!Laugh


Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: March/24/2008 at 08:29
The shotgun and me too.

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Folks ain't got a sense of humor no more. They don't laugh they just get sore.

Need to follow the rules. Just hard to determine which set of rules to follow
Now the rules have changed again.


Posted By: Tip69
Date Posted: March/24/2008 at 09:33
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Thanks Todd
This one is in very poor condition. One hammer keeps falling off, It needs a screw.
 
Sounds like it's got a screw loose--------------like Big Squeeze!!Laugh
 
Are you sure its just ONE?  Big%20Grin


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