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Topic: Old friends
Posted By: Kickboxer
Subject: Old friends
Date Posted: May/21/2009 at 19:14
I didn't know you guys liked horses... of course these almost don't qualify, just pets.  Bar is 28, Classy is 30.   
Bar:


Classy:


Bar and Classy:



Bar is a registered half Arab/half Quarter horse and can trace her lines back to 3Bars.
Classy is a registered POA/Arab... she can't trace her lines but she is pretty classy.










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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: May/21/2009 at 21:30
Good looking horses for how old they are.  I am not a fan of letting them wander around with a halter on though.  Saw on the had go its shoe caught in the halter.  Kicked itself to death trying to get it out.

Anyway, a few of my friends.  This is Roy.  He was a lot of fun to work with.  A true mustang.  Has the freeze brands to prove it too.  Best horse I have even ridden.


Me and Roy guiding.


A few of the other horses.  Roy, Blaze (behind me on the right), Paint (rear), Tom (front)

The pack string of a successful hunt.  And the outfitter.  In order - Ugly (he had a nasty attitude, but was a good horse to ride) Blaze (another mustang), Billy (a mustang was trying to break him for riding.  Had a few rodeos with him!), Paint, Jack (Jumpy Jack), Tom
And I just have to throw in a good view!  Big Smile


Edited to add names for the horses.


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Posted By: SD Dog
Date Posted: May/21/2009 at 21:38
KB - I like them, but know nothing of them.  For their age, would agree they look pretty good.
 
You and your pictures Helo........
 
 


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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: May/22/2009 at 06:01
Man the scenery makes you sick dosen't it?  Sick with Envy!

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: May/22/2009 at 09:13
Nice photos as always, Helo.  I hope to view some of those scenes with my own eyes in the near future.  
The horses were out in my back yard, no fence... Classy is the "lead horse".  Bar will always come if I have Classy's halter and sometimes I have to be able to capture Classy, ergo the halter.  
They come out there and eat every day.  They love Bermuda grass.  Cuts down on lawn mowing, too.  


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: May/22/2009 at 23:00
They do make great lawn mowers!  Just watch out for the fertilizer! Big Smile

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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON


Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: May/22/2009 at 23:51
Im glad you guys like to share your pics! I loves horses, used to have a couple when I was alot younger.. The country in Montana, if thats where the pic was took, looks alot like Eastern Oregon where I live. I cannot ride any more and I would take a good ass kickin to change that fact.. LOL!
JF


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 06:36

Dan, since you own a 3 Bar, I'm sure your familiar with the name "Sonny Dee Bar"? He was a great horse with a terrific disposition.

I worked a ranch in IA where Sonny was owned and boarded.
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 06:37
Magnificent pics, as usual, Andrew!


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 09:25
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Dan, since you own a 3 Bar, I'm sure your familiar with the name "Sonny Dee Bar"? He was a great horse with a terrific disposition.

I worked a ranch in IA where Sonny was owned and boarded.
 
 
 
 
 
He's a monster.  Looks like quite a horse. DEFINITELY a quarter horse. Bar took a lot of the Arab qualities... a bit lighter boned, but much faster than most quarter horses (when she was younger) and maintained the 'quarter horse sense".  She's been a really great horse... hate to see her get old.



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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: RONK
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 09:35
 Great thread.
 Horses are one of the few animals I've ever become emotionally attached to the way many people are about dogs and cats. I've spent some of the best and some of the worst times of my life on horseback in the same general part of Montana as Helo's pics.
This is why I'm always griping on him about making me "homesick" by posting his Montana pictures! 
 The outfitter I worked for back then owned about a dozen pack and saddlehorses of various breeds and rented another couple dozen for the hunting season from Lonnie Mantle, then in Wyoming, I believe. I got to (HAD TO!) ride most of them, except for a few that simply couldn't be saddled and one ancient old mankiller (literally) that NOBODY was allowed to ride. Ever. 'Old Dun' had killed one and crippled two or three guys in his past by suddenly (and VERY purposfully) flipping himself over backwards on them. Why my boss even had him on the place, I'll never know.  I think he just felt a compassion to provide a place for him to live out his life in the company of the other horses he owned. I understand that Dun was a champion cutting sled racer when he was a young horse, but he was around 40 when I first saw him. 
 
Most horses are kind of plodders in the mountains, especially after the first hour or so on the trail, but every once in a great while you come across one that makes you feel like you are riding an eagle. I've been priveledged to have ridden two or three such horses in my life. One of them was my boss's personal saddle horse named Snip, and one other was a rented mare I really regret not buying, but I had no place to keep her then. I still miss that horse!
 Incidently, both of them were very small animals; in fact, I could touch my heels together under Snip's belly while riding him! He flew up and down those mountans all day long, (my boss  was a big man, and his saddle was fully rigged and pretty heavy too)...incredible endurance!


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 12:56
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Dan, since you own a 3 Bar, I'm sure your familiar with the name "Sonny Dee Bar"? He was a great horse with a terrific disposition.

I worked a ranch in IA where Sonny was owned and boarded.
 
 
 
 
 
He's a monster.  Looks like quite a horse. DEFINITELY a quarter horse. Bar took a lot of the Arab qualities... a bit lighter boned, but much faster than most quarter horses (when she was younger) and maintained the 'quarter horse sense".  She's been a really great horse... hate to see her get old.

 
He was a handsome gent and gentle as a lamb. Boy, the things he would do to the "dummy" in the semen retrieval area was legendary.. Bucky  He was a lover, thats for sure. Wink


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 12:59
Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Great thread.
 Horses are one of the few animals I've ever become emotionally attached to the way many people are about dogs and cats. I've spent some of the best and some of the worst times of my life on horseback in the same general part of Montana as Helo's pics.
This is why I'm always griping on him about making me "homesick" by posting his Montana pictures! 
 The outfitter I worked for back then owned about a dozen pack and saddlehorses of various breeds and rented another couple dozen for the hunting season from Lonnie Mantle, then in Wyoming, I believe. I got to (HAD TO!) ride most of them, except for a few that simply couldn't be saddled and one ancient old mankiller (literally) that NOBODY was allowed to ride. Ever. 'Old Dun' had killed one and crippled two or three guys in his past by suddenly (and VERY purposfully) flipping himself over backwards on them. Why my boss even had him on the place, I'll never know.  I think he just felt a compassion to provide a place for him to live out his life in the company of the other horses he owned. I understand that Dun was a champion cutting sled racer when he was a young horse, but he was around 40 when I first saw him. 
 
Most horses are kind of plodders in the mountains, especially after the first hour or so on the trail, but every once in a great while you come across one that makes you feel like you are riding an eagle. I've been priveledged to have ridden two or three such horses in my life. One of them was my boss's personal saddle horse named Snip, and one other was a rented mare I really regret not buying, but I had no place to keep her then. I still miss that horse!
 Incidently, both of them were very small animals; in fact, I could touch my heels together under Snip's belly while riding him! He flew up and down those mountans all day long, (my boss  was a big man, and his saddle was fully rigged and pretty heavy too)...incredible endurance!
 
Good story, Ron. I've often longed to move out West and live that life.  


Posted By: RONK
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 13:30
 I was in my mid twenties then, and if I had chosen to remain there, I'm quite certain I would be dead by now.
No regrets, but I am glad I got a chance to at least taste the 'cowboy' (sort of ) life. 
 I wish you guys could have sat around the evening campfire with me and the other guides after we had packed in and set up an elk camp, and listened to the stories our boss told about his life. He was pretty much orphaned/abandoned at the age of thirteen and took to guiding hunters as a living, eventually becoming one of the more successful big-game outfitters in Montana.
 He had a great sense of humor, a near-photographic memory, and a lifetime of amazing adventures to tell about.
 He was of Irish descent, and it only took a couple Black Velvets to get him talking!
 I consider him one of the most remarkable men I've ever known.


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 13:35
Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 I was in my mid twenties then, and if I had chosen to remain there, I'm quite certain I would be dead by now.
No regrets, but I am glad I got a chance to at least taste the 'cowboy' (sort of ) life. 
 I wish you guys could have sat around the evening campfire with me and the other guides after we had packed in and set up an elk camp, and listened to the stories our boss told about his life. He was pretty much orphaned/abandoned at the age of thirteen and took to guiding hunters as a living, eventually becoming one of the more successful big-game outfitters in Montana.
 He had a great sense of humor, a near-photographic memory, and a lifetime of amazing adventures to tell about.
 He was of Irish descent, and it only took a couple Black Velvets to get him talking!
 I consider him one of the most remarkable men I've ever known.
 
Cool Dude, sounds like one of those people you just want to be around to hear the stories!
 
Curtis Lowe, Curtis Lowe (Lynnard Skynard)


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Posted By: RONK
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 13:46
So true!
 I really need to give him a call. I haven't heard from him in a while...


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 14:11
Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

So true!
 I really need to give him a call. I haven't heard from him in a while...
 
This is the perfect weekend for it!  Drop him a line!  I'm sure it will put a smile on the old guys face!


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 22:24
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Great thread.
 Horses are one of the few animals I've ever become emotionally attached to the way many people are about dogs and cats. I've spent some of the best and some of the worst times of my life on horseback in the same general part of Montana as Helo's pics.
This is why I'm always griping on him about making me "homesick" by posting his Montana pictures! 
 The outfitter I worked for back then owned about a dozen pack and saddlehorses of various breeds and rented another couple dozen for the hunting season from Lonnie Mantle, then in Wyoming, I believe. I got to (HAD TO!) ride most of them, except for a few that simply couldn't be saddled and one ancient old mankiller (literally) that NOBODY was allowed to ride. Ever. 'Old Dun' had killed one and crippled two or three guys in his past by suddenly (and VERY purposfully) flipping himself over backwards on them. Why my boss even had him on the place, I'll never know.  I think he just felt a compassion to provide a place for him to live out his life in the company of the other horses he owned. I understand that Dun was a champion cutting sled racer when he was a young horse, but he was around 40 when I first saw him. 
 
Most horses are kind of plodders in the mountains, especially after the first hour or so on the trail, but every once in a great while you come across one that makes you feel like you are riding an eagle. I've been priveledged to have ridden two or three such horses in my life. One of them was my boss's personal saddle horse named Snip, and one other was a rented mare I really regret not buying, but I had no place to keep her then. I still miss that horse!
 Incidently, both of them were very small animals; in fact, I could touch my heels together under Snip's belly while riding him! He flew up and down those mountans all day long, (my boss  was a big man, and his saddle was fully rigged and pretty heavy too)...incredible endurance!
 
Good story, Ron. I've often longed to move out West and live that life.  


Come on out Mark!

Ron,

Sounds like you were describing my horse, only mine is a little bigger than Snip.  Roy (my mustang, or really the outfitters, but I consider him mine) will just not stop.  Go all day in all terrain and still have energy left!  He is also very sure footed.  Never fell and rarely slipped.  He was the smoothest horse I have ever ridden, and his normal walk as about 5 1/2 miles an hour.  He could cover some serious territory.  Had to slow him down for the other horses.  He was also very smart.  New every trail, every spot we normally stop, new elk and to stop when he saw them.  I love that horse.  They all have their own personality and are so much fun to work with.  And he was only 5 years old when I first started with him, and was somewhat green broke.  I had so much fun working with him.  Stubborn like me, but such a great horse.

And the memories of the outfitter.  He was 72 when I started with him.  So many stories, and so much wisdom!  Best job and the best boss you can have.  And a great cook!  Never had a bad meal with him even if cooking over and open fire.

Thanks guys, now I can't wait for guiding season to start.  I hope I get to do it this year!


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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 23:09
I've ridden horses all my life.  Bar and Classy are my wife's and daughter's horses, respectively.  My horse was Shalaka Khan, out of Bar (our Bar) and Shalako (Shalako was sired by El Shaklan, the European Champion Arabian in the 80's).  When I was young, I rode racing quarter horses, but Khan had more speed "out of the hole" and overall than any horse I have ever been on.  He was magnificent, spirited, a desert horse, would not be beaten.  He is the only horse to have ever scared me with speed and power.  I've ridden him all day through the desert at speeds most horses could keep up for only minutes, not because I wanted to, but because he wanted to.  When he wanted to run, I simply had to let him go, I could not easily stop him (I never rode him with a bit in his mouth... used a bosal or side-pull hackamore) unless I just halted him completely and got off.  It was like he was always trying to impress me with his prowess.  My wife could ride him and he would never take over from her, never tried once.  When he was but three years old he developed an enterolith in his intestine... said to be caused by alphalpha hay, which is all we could get in the Mojave Desert where we lived at the time.  Days before I was to ship him to Auburn University to have surgery to remove it, he died.  I did all I could to save him... it just was not enough.  It was a great loss to me, he was a great friend... one of the "great" animals I have known.  I think of him all the time, wish he had made it to Alabama.  He would have loved it here.  I have not ridden since he died.  

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: May/23/2009 at 23:22
I would love to let a horse go as long as he could running.  I got to let Roy run flat out for about 30 to 40 miles once.  He is the fastest horse I have ever been on.  I know there are horses faster, but he would make your eyes water from the speed.  He also could turn on a dime.  I only ride him with a hackamore.  Should work him with a bit to see what he does.

Dan, I am sorry you lost such a good horse.  Hate to loose them, and especially when you are attatched to them.


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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: May/24/2009 at 07:02
I had a double Leo mare when I was a kid that wasn't "fast" per se, but that girl could turn on a dime and leave you 8 cents change...She loved to work cattle too. 
She would of been a hell of a barrel racer.


Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: May/24/2009 at 11:15
Helo is a cool dude..........!! 
 


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: May/24/2009 at 12:23
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

I had a double Leo mare when I was a kid that wasn't "fast" per se, but that girl could turn on a dime and leave you 8 cents change...She loved to work cattle too. 
She would of been a hell of a barrel racer.
My oldest daughter had some pretty good success barrel racing with Classy.  Classy loved it.  She was a great cow cutter, too.  She did some team penning and point Classy at a cow and she would cut it out.  She still moves pretty well for an older horse, but we decided a couple of years ago to just let them be pets.  Maybe some slow riding every now and then, but nothing strenuous. 



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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: May/24/2009 at 12:24
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Helo is a cool dude..........!! 
 

did you have a picture of him??  Can't see it.


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: May/24/2009 at 12:27
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Helo is a cool dude..........!! 
 

did you have a picture of him??  Can't see it.


Oh boy, I sure hope Cyborg doesn't see this!!!  Hiding


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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON


Posted By: RONK
Date Posted: May/24/2009 at 18:50
  Andrew, that photo of you riding Roy with the dead trees in the background  looks very much like one I have somewhere of myself riding a big palamino gelding named "Michelob" atop Redrock Mountain. He was a very sweet, gentle horse but I hated having to ride him because he was slow and lazy, and so wide you felt like a broken wishbone after forking him for any length of time. He could just about pack out a whole elephant, though!
 
"Sarge" was a fifteen year old paint Appaloosa that was getting spooky because he was going blind, and kept seeing "ghosts" on the trail! A rancher had given him to my boss as a five year old (?) after he killed his teenage daughter. She had been out riding and stopped to rest where there weren't any trees so she apparently tied the lead rope to her ankle. Something evidently scared him, and he ran, dragging her to death.
 The rancher was going to shoot him, but finally decided not to, and gave him away instead.
  He was really quite a good horse until he started going blind, but I could never get over thinking about that poor girl while riding him.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/03/2009 at 23:39
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I didn't know you guys liked horses... of course these almost don't qualify, just pets.  Bar is 28, Classy is 30.   
Bar:


Classy:


Bar and Classy:



Bar is a registered half Arab/half Quarter horse and can trace her lines back to 3Bars.
Classy is a registered POA/Arab... she can't trace her lines but she is pretty classy.








Not a good 4th so far.  someone set off fireworks down on the back end of my property, scared the horses, they broke out and Bar got hit by a car.  The vet just left... we have 24-48 hours to know if she will be OK.  Bad cuts over both eyes and her lower lip, but the vet said her internals sound good.  
Woman who was speeding down the hill was transported to the hospital at her request.  Cops said her vehicle was hardly damaged, no visible injuries... 



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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: July/03/2009 at 23:49
That's awful, sorry to hear this KB!! Hope every things turns out OK for Bar and the woman.

We have our dog medicated right now because of the fireworks, he hates 'em. Tomorrow night will be even worse. F'ing sucks.

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 00:01
I hope your horse is ok too KB, pets are just like innocent little kids.
 
 
 
Hope to hear good news soon!
JF


Posted By: Monster
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 00:21
Prayers will be sent KB!

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Posted By: Dogger
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 07:07
Sorry to hear about your horses Dan.  And I really hope you will have no trouble with that driver.

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God save the Empire!


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 07:17
Prayers and my best wishes for your pets.

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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?


Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 07:28
 

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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 11:10
Sorry to hear about your horses.  That really sucks.  I will give mine a little extra special treatment when I go see him later today.

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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 18:21
Thank you all...  
Bar ate well today, until this evening, and moved around quite a bit.  Vet says we will know in another day if she is recovering.  
The police said there was "nothing wrong with the woman, but she went to the hospital anyway".  I keep praying that Bar will recover fully... she looks pretty rough right now.



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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 19:10

Well being up and eating is a good sign, lets just hope she gets a good report from the Doc in a day or so. Being hit by a car is extremely rough for any animal.....

 
You  "All" Take Care..........
JF


Posted By: RONK
Date Posted: July/04/2009 at 19:21
 Sorry to hear that bad news, Dan, sure hope your old friend gets better. Sounds like she's doing well so far...


Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 00:47
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Thank you all...  
Bar ate well today, until this evening, and moved around quite a bit.  Vet says we will know in another day if she is recovering.  
The police said there was "nothing wrong with the woman, but she went to the hospital anyway".  I keep praying that Bar will recover fully... she looks pretty rough right now.



I hope that is not as bad a sign as I think.  I hope she recovers fully.  Keep us up to date.


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To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

GEORGE WASHINGTON


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 08:18
Hope Bar is alright Dan!  You said that someone set off fireworks on  the back of your property and thats what spooked the horses?  I think I would be finding out who was responsible and be handing them at least the Vet bill.  Are you responsible for the lady's damaged car and medical expenses?

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--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 12:43
Dang Noisy ass Fireworks.  I don't like 'em.  Fire Hazard.  People get hurt.  Noise.  And now frightened animals.....and an accident.   Thumbs Down

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 13:12
It appears the bantamine Bar gets for pain causes her to go off her food for several hours.  We gave her the pain killer again this morning before she ate and she refused food, I waited a couple of hours, gave her the grain, and she ate just fine.  She is moving around well... I BELIEVE she is getting better.  
As for legal issues... just don't know.  Everyone I have spoken to says that Alabama takes the approach that anyone who hits livestock is at fault.  I don't think I would have a real problem anyway since they were spooked by someone else's fireworks.  There are only a few houses below, so the guilty would be easy to find, I think.  The policeman hinted he thought the woman might be pushing some injury case, but the damage to her vehicle is negligable, he said she did not appear to be injured and was wearing a seatbelt, and, I think, the horse will survive.  Hard to believe there is much injury to someone INSIDE the vehicle that hit the horse and the horse didn't die.  My thought is Bar is going to be OK.  Danged expensive so far, though.  Over $1k for vet visit and followups... puts my next project on hold a bit, but I am ecstatic that Bar seems to be recovering well.
She is much more important than some "piece of kit" as the Aussies would say.  
Right now, I am pretty grateful and happy... God is good and answers prayers and I am thankful.  If it had not happened at all, of course I would be happier, but not bad, considering.  


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 13:28
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Dang Noisy ass Fireworks.  I don't like 'em.  Fire Hazard.  People get hurt.  Noise.  And now frightened animals.....and an accident.   Thumbs Down


Me too.

Night two of medicating our Akita really sucked. Three years of watching him go absolutely nuts on the 4th of July forced us to try this route. Yesterday I left the garage open like I usually do and went in the house for a few minutes. Our dog never wanders through the garage, from the back yard to the front, but yesterday he did looking for me. Our neighbor called shortly after saying that they had him. When I went to retrieve our dog, I found him confused and drooling at the mouth. Like yesterday, he'll be lethargic most of day. I'm thinking next year we're going to have to do find another solution.







Hope Bar's doing better today KB and that the woman (driver) is a reasonable person.




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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 13:45
Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Dang Noisy ass Fireworks.  I don't like 'em.  Fire Hazard.  People get hurt.  Noise.  And now frightened animals.....and an accident.   Thumbs Down


Me too.

Night two of medicating our Akita really sucked. Three years of watching him go absolutely nuts on the 4th of July forced us to try this route. Yesterday I left the garage open like I usually do and went in the house for a few minutes. Our dog never wanders through the garage, from the back yard to the front, but yesterday he did looking for me. Our neighbor called shortly after saying that they had him. When I went to retrieve our dog, I found him confused and drooling at the mouth. Like yesterday, he'll be lethargic most of day. I'm thinking next year we're going to have to do find another solution.







Hope Bar's doing better today KB and that the woman (driver) is a reasonable person.


Mike, I had a friend in Kalifornia who raised Akita's.  He said they, like Samoyed's (I had a pack of those) are highly susceptible to explosive noises.  My Sammy's would actually cover thier ears with their paws and howl like crazy.  Fred would not let his Akita's outside on any holiday with fireworks. That is a REALLY pretty Akita.  Hope he is OK, now.

This is the first time my horses have gotten so upset.  Someone set a big bunch off right on the edge of my property, much closer than in the past.  I think it was the repetitive noise that spooked them.




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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 17:44
KB, have your horses been around gunfire much?  If they have, the sound should not bother them, but the flashes and lights probably would.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 21:42
Drew,
 They have been around gunfire, in that I shoot on my property a lot, but they HATE it.  Never seem to get used to it.  My CO2 pellet pistol will cause them to spook.  I am convinced it was the noise.  It was pretty loud, that is why we checked on them and found them gone so quickly.  Got to where Bar was hit only seconds after it happened.  
  She IS healing, we thank you all for your prayers.  I have high confidence, given no cholic or other devastating aftereffect, she is going to be OK.  She is eating pretty well, all functions seem to be OK, but she is, of course, very sore.  



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Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 21:57
Glad to hear the upbeat news, KB, please keep us informed.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 22:03
Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Dang Noisy ass Fireworks.  I don't like 'em.  Fire Hazard.  People get hurt.  Noise.  And now frightened animals.....and an accident.   Thumbs Down

In HIGH agreement.  This is one function sports events, city, state and federal governments do better than the "general populace".   


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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: July/05/2009 at 23:22
Glad Bar is getting better.

Here are a couple of pics of the my friends I spent the weekend with.  (I forgot to take the camera on the ride, and missed some great pics up in the mountains.  Even had a coyote 40 yards away, which is now dead. Big Smile)

This is my mustang Roy.  Best horse I know.  I would be very upset if he got hit by a car.


Sam (black, he is a registered paint) and Roy


Billy (mustang), and Ollie


Mister ( 17 hands, 1800 lbs), Ranger (16 hands, 1700 lbs), Sam, Billy, Roy, Ollie, and Blaze is hiding behind Mister.



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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/06/2009 at 06:31
Great pictures... how did you get them to line up for the last one??? 

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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: July/06/2009 at 07:44
Must just be a pack string habit for them.  Actually I think it was just the storm coming through and they were turning their butts to the wind.  We got off the mountain that day just before a big thunderstorm.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/06/2009 at 18:55
Well, Bar is not doing as well today.  I got home and she could hardly walk.  Vet came back out, gave her a shot of steroids and steroid pills.  It will be touch and go for the next few days.  Her neck swelled up about 3x its normal size.  I fear for her, now.  Turns out Classy got hit too... her whole right side is swollen.  



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Posted By: mike650
Date Posted: July/06/2009 at 18:59
Prayers will be sent tonight.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/06/2009 at 19:01
Thank you, prayers are much appreciated.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/09/2009 at 21:35
Bar is still hanging in.  Seems to be improving, but still not safe.  Classy appears to be OK, though a bit sore.  I've been spending more time in the barn than in the house.  

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/14/2009 at 20:41
We took the horses for a walk today.  Classy is pretty much OK, Bar made it through the walk, but is still very shakey.  Part of it was she has been standing up in one spot for the last 8 days, but I think healing is going to be very slow.  She is recovering, but she is not "out of the woods", yet.  

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: July/14/2009 at 22:07
Glad to hear your horses are doing better!Smile


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/15/2009 at 06:06
Good to hear it Dan!  She is no spring chicken so I would anticipate a slow recovery.  Sounds like she has made it through the golden week.  As long as she doesn't get any bowel obstructions I think she will recover fully!  Making sure she gets a little exercise everyday is important at this point!
 
Take care
B


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/16/2009 at 20:20
Bar has to go back on steroids tomorrow.  Her improvement has slowed significantly.  I thought they took her offf too soon, but she was doing well.  She is fine standing in the corral, but her movement has regressed.  Steroids... I love 'em.  

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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/16/2009 at 21:07
Steriods do help.  Reduce swelling and infamation and helps the joints!
Just don't tease her if she grows a beard!


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/19/2009 at 13:14
The steroids appear to be working... Bar is having her best day since 5Jul.  The swelling in her neck is down to a knot, her balance is much better... we walked her around for about 30 minutes and never showed a sign she might fall, much steadier on her feet.  AND, she grazed for about 10 minutes.  That is a real accomplishment.  She could not bend that far without me having to hold her up before today.  (ever tried holding up a 1000lb horse whose legs had gone out from under her?)  While she still has a way to go, I am now at a "concerned" level... no longer fearful.  

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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/19/2009 at 18:01
Sounds like you take good care of all your girls Daddy Dan!
Good Luck


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/19/2009 at 20:26
Since my last post on this, Bar had made amazing progress.  It is all due to all your prayers and the excellent steroids.  I am amazed  at her progress in the last couple of days.  Thank you all for every prayer sent.  
I am convinced... Bar is going to be OK.
Thank God, thank you  all.



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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/24/2009 at 18:32
Progress is excellent.  She is getting stronger every day.  She is still stiff in the back legs, but that is where she took the brunt of the hit.  Probably won't post on this until there is something more to report, but thank you all for your concern and prayers.  She really looks good for a 28 year old horse that got run over by a car...

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: July/24/2009 at 19:30
Nice to hear the horses are both doing well DanExcellent Great! One of the things that gets to me most in life, is to see animals suffer.


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/24/2009 at 20:06
good news for sure!!!

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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/24/2009 at 20:10
good to see ya posting so soon Julio.  Be sure to not over do it!

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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: July/24/2009 at 20:33
I grew up around horses but have not ridden is many years. Looks like fun to me.

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: July/24/2009 at 21:13
I cannot ride any more which is ok. I still enjoy watching them, especially when they have lots of room to really run...Thanks B


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 17:10
I expanded Bar's stall yesterday and today.  She trotted yesterday for the first time since the accident.  She now has a corral in the backyard... still cannot be "on her own".  She is recovering very well.  The vet said the other day that he had really written her off and was amazed at her recovery.  He did not believe it would be possible.  It is a real blessing to be able to see her start to look like her old self (no pun intended).  She has really gotten spoled, though.  She gets a smoothie of carrots, apples, minerals, bone supplements and apple juice morning and evening with her grain.  
Thank you for all your prayer support.  


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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 17:27
Glad to hear that she is getting better. Keep up the good work.

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Now the rules have changed again.


Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 17:32
Good to hear! As Ive said before , I hate to see animals suffer. Its great that you are treating he so well with the Smoothies and attention...Perhaps my Wife and I will move over to your neighborhood as we get older. Please do let me know if the house next door becomes available!!! We like to have breakfeast around 10:00 ish and of course we will need our meds with a Smoothie following that! Gosh DanYippee this is sounding more exciting all the time...I promise when we hit 80 we will not be that grumpy either, promise! Maybe on Sundays you can wheel us over to the local fishin hole after we go to the range and shoot our little 22'sWink
 
Julio....


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 17:39
Where I live, there is no "next door"...

However, we could probably build a mobile home park on the backside of the property...


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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 17:51
Ohhhh, Alright but your going to have to build us wheel chair ramps for our Suped Up Scooters that will will be driving...Im not talking about the ones that that the obese people in Wal-mart ride either! These will be Custom, with a min. of 425 HP. Im sure you folks can save up enough to do this for us by that time...My wife is 47 and Im 52 so you still have plenty of time..... Do not worry Dan, I will be doing my part to as Im alrready applying for SSD, so that will cover some of the Ethanol for the Scooters...An upper scale triple wide will have to do, I was just dreaming about the Log Cabin of course..But I was serious about the waterfall!
 
Thanks Again!
J....... This Much


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 18:20
Dan, you can make mine a double wide tree stand, with a excellent view of the feed plots.  If ya do it right I should be able to shoot my deer without getting out of bed! Big Grin

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 18:43

OMG, Neighbors? Bud Im hoping you have your own ScooterBaseball Bat



Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 18:57
Son's a tuner! have 12!  Your front yard just turned into a parking lot!

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 19:26
Dan, Sorry I got carried away on your thread! I will go back where I came from and get off of here, sorry!. Bud and I are both homeless , but thats ok right Bud. Im just glad your son is a tuner, whatever that is Bud....


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 19:37
You guys have a lot of work to do before you get decrepit...  
You need to start soon.  


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Posted By: Ed Connelly
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 19:46
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Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 21:13
Don't sweat it too much Julio.  Dan's got 50 acres to play with.  I only have 2.5 acres and no woods.  I was just fishing for a hunting spot in that neck of the woods! Smile Dan probably won't have any trees left anyway.  That 458 lott eats them!
 
A tuner is the current generations version of a greasemonkey.  Hotrodding cars with turbos and computers, usually rice burners not good old american musclecars.  my sons '84 2.8liter 6cyc BWM 325e has 400+HP.  Scary fast!!!


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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/15/2009 at 21:59
You are looking for a hunting spot Bud?  I was looking for a retirement home, LOL!
6 cyl Beamer with 400 HP! OMG, that is alot of power for a little car like that. Im a product of the late 60's , early 70's when Chevelles and Cameros, GTO's and Road Runners were the trip. Do not forget 442's and Chargers.. Im a actually a Chevy guy. I know nothing about Rice Grinders. Ive driven GMC 4x4 since 1976 and still do, now of course they have a little lift to em......Well Good Luck Finding your Hunting Spot Bud!


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 13:37
These are the horses that got hit by a car on 3 Jul 09...

Bar was hit hardest...



Classy was hurt, but not as badly...



Bar ran through the pasture on her own today.  She is recovering well...





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Posted By: 3_tens
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 14:31
The person walking around is very careful to keep their face away from the camera.

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Now the rules have changed again.


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 14:38
That is Jose, my farmhand...

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 16:11
GREAT!, they have recovered very well. Its nice to see you have taken such good care of your horses. I live in Horse Country too, Ive always enjoyed just watching them. I used to ride...Nice Pictures!Smile Good Job between God & You and the Vet!


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 16:14
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

That is Jose, my farmhand...
Wow, you have your very own JOSE?


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 18:03
My wife hired him... he works for tortillas and frijoles...

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 18:15
Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

GREAT!, they have recovered very well. Its nice to see you have taken such good care of your horses. I live in Horse Country too, Ive always enjoyed just watching them. I used to ride...Nice Pictures!Smile Good Job between God & You and the Vet!

The vet actually gave up on her... he thought she was GONE.  God has more to do with it than anything else...


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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 18:43
Ok God and Jose and the Special Smoothies you were feeding her..Smile
 
I used to have a Jose who worked for me for 7 years except he was white. One day he just never did come back... He said working 3 and 4  days a week was just to much for him. He was only 49 or so...We asked him to work no harder than my wife and I do. He used to call us machines casue we worked so hard ,according to him.. Personally I thought I was pretty lazy!Sleep


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 18:59
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

My wife hired him... he works for tortillas and frijoles...
And 50 CAl Ammo Wink

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 19:34
I don't know... everytime I come home HE's there...

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Posted By: JF4545
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 20:22
Bud is right! I would start counting ammo before he gets there and after he leaves every day! Good thinkin Bud!


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/22/2009 at 20:47
I'm thinking someones behind on chores.!  LOL

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