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Topic: Tragedy avoided by luck
Posted By: BeltFed
Subject: Tragedy avoided by luck
Date Posted: December/08/2009 at 15:45
This past weekend my club hosted a night shoot competition for fun and training. There were three stages. The first stage was a shotgun or pistol stage with some type of light to illuminate the targets required. The second stage was slightly illuminated and the shooter could not use any other illumination on the targets. Stage three required some type of light to shoot the stage. Stages 2 and 3 were pistol only.
Everyone was trying to maintain their night vision so turning on a light outside of a course of fire was discouraged, whch could have been a contributing factor to the disaster that didn't happen.
At stage one the last shooter in my relay used a 12 ga. pump shotgun. After being given the command to load the shooter started to load his shotgun. He dropped one of his rounds and without using a light reached down and picked up a round and loaded it in the shotgun. When he started the course he got off 1 or 2 rounds and then could not chamber another round. After failing to clear the problem the shooter gave up and used a light to identify the problem. There was a 16ga. round stuck in the barrel blocking the next round from chambering. The shooter had picked up a 16ga. round instead of his 12ga. off the ground when he was loading and dropped the round.
Had that been a more common 20ga. round instead of a 16ga. there would have been a tragedy, but LUCK interviened in a bad mistake, and no one was hurt.
Make sure the ammo you are loading in your firearm is the correct size and intended for your firearm.


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Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: December/08/2009 at 16:18
WOW, that could have been a problem!

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Posted By: martin3175
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 06:42
lucky


Posted By: Trays 7940
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 08:09
Wow!

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Posted By: lucytuma
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 12:34

Always good to have luck on your side, this was probably a great learning and training lesson.



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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 13:39
This incident made the club newsletter.

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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: Ick
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 13:53
I have a shooting club insured and one weekend they had a course setup.  This one guy walked over to the machine that flings the clays and ON PURPOSE put his face right next to the machine to see how it works.  Invariably the man had his face mauled by the arm of the machine flinging the clays.  He obtained an attorney and sued the club for "wrongful injury."   He couldn't understand why nobody in the club would talk to him any longer.  As far as he saw it... he was owed a pension for life since he was injured.  Did he injure himself on purpuse?  Sure seemed like it to everyone present.
 
Needless to say it almost destroyed the shooting club, everyone was pretty irritated.  The insurance carrier covered the loss but decided that "perhas shooting clubs aren't the best clients" and respectfully asked the club to go elsewhere wih their insuance next year.  Luckily we found reasonably priced insurance even though they had such serious litigation on their record.
 
The injured man has subsequently consumed his settlement from the judgement in many cases of beer and drugs.  He is still "no longer welcome" by the community.  You can't be careful enough.... and on top of that there are people looking to injure themselves on purpose waiting for an opportunity to get a settlement.
 
Glad to hear everything is OK.  Remind me the next time I talk to one of my shooting ranges if they do any "night shooting", lol.


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Posted By: Ick
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 13:59

Incidentally I recall a range rule at this one place in Ohio.....

"Dropped on ground, out of bounds" or something like that.  If you dropped ammo it was not touchable until you finished.... and then you were not allowed to place it in your weapon or ammo pack, it had to be disgarded.


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Posted By: supertool73
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 14:04
That has happened at Front Sight several times with pistols.  People will pick up dropped ammo off the ground and get the wrong size.  Most times people are shooting a .40 and load up a 9mm round in their mag that they picked up.  Then when that round chambers it just pushes it into the chamber and when they pull the trigger they get a click.  So they tap the mag and rack the slide and now have a loaded .40 round behind the 9mm round that was pushed down the barrel.  And KABOOM is what happens next.  Gun is blown apart and hands bruised and cut up.

The really sad thing is this happens in the daylight.  They tell people not to pick up ammo, but everyone is so cheap that they cannot bring them selves to part with a couple rounds on the groud so instead they blow up their $600 pistol.  Pretty stupid if you ask me.


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Posted By: Ick
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 15:23
excellent point supertool

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Posted By: Sgt. D
Date Posted: December/09/2009 at 20:08
The infamous 12/20 burst. It is a main topic in our Hunter safety classes. We had a couple of examples to show the students. Hopefully seeing a barrel peeled open like a banana will prevent future disasters. One was a 2400.00 over and under. What a shame.

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Posted By: 55spartan
Date Posted: March/11/2010 at 04:17
damn close call


Posted By: The Apostle
Date Posted: March/11/2010 at 05:55
Empty Chamber Indicators (ECI's) are now compulsory for my gun range in Australia.


Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: March/11/2010 at 11:00
The same precautions can apply to rounds of the same caliber. For example, I have to be careful to separate my loaded rounds and fired brass for my two .308s because they are chambered slightly differently. Not to mention that I've gone to all the trouble to develop loads and keep fire-formed brass for two specific chambers. It's complicated by using the same brass, primers and bullets too. I doubt there would be a serious incident, but just the same...

Also, I recently switched to only using shooting glasses that pass the MIL-PRF-31013 standard. It requires 4X the impact resistance of the ANSI Z87.1 standard.


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Posted By: 22Rifle
Date Posted: April/30/2010 at 10:34
That's pretty lucky nothing happened.

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