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Topic: Leupy mk 4 question
Posted By: neoinarien
Subject: Leupy mk 4 question
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 09:53
What the heck is covered under warranty?  This is Leupold's website:

"Warranties on Leupold® Mark 4®, Mark 2®, Mark AR™, and Tactical optical products vary depending on use and other factors. For more information regarding the warranties on these products, contact Leupold at 1-800-LEUPOLD or (503) 526-1400."

Anyone know off hand?



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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 10:18
I've heard their warranty is quite good and their Customer Service is top notch.  Unfortunately, their product is no longer worth the $$ they want for it.
I guess, to get such good Customer Service, they had to skimp some on the actual optic.

I don't have details, but someone will be along shortly who will.


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Posted By: neoinarien
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 10:35
Yeah, I understand the China bit: down with Leupold, up with Nightforce, etc. 

My concern though with NF is that I don't know if they'll be around in 10, 20 years incase there are any problems.  

But the point is moot if Leupy doesn't have a decent warranty on these mark 4's which appear to have a strange warranty. 


Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 15:57
China?  What about China?  I know there are unscrupulous people importing Chinese made copies and selling them as original and as replicas.  What else?  Even their new line of Redfield scopes are made in the USA.  The 2006 headline reads, "China's trademark office rules against Leupold's claim for the Leupold mark."  As far as I know all of their gold ring stuff is made here. 

China's trademark office rules against Leupold's claim for the 'LEUPOLD' mark

China's trademark office rules against Leupold's claim for the 'LEUPOLD' mark".



Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 16:53
The world might not be here in 20 years; Nightforce is doing great as a company, I'd say their future is brighter than leupold's or mot other optics companies in that market.

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Posted By: neoinarien
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 19:08
I hope NF will be around.  I have never seen any of them in person, but everything I've read/heard has been great.  

But I'm going to take a bit of a 'wait and see' approach.  


Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 19:20

the strange wording in the warranty is based in the many contracts for service with military, LEO and other group buyers, which may be individually different. As far as individuals go they will cover just about anything and everything.



Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 20:55

MY EXPERIENCE IS...Send it back regardless of what damage and regardless of how it happened. they enjoy fixing the product and pride themsleves on the repair...



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Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 21:20
I tend to be one of only a few here who like my Leupolds and find that they make several optics that are particularly useful and well though out. Leupold has been very innovative in the last few years introducing some very useful balistic reticles Varmit and Boone & Crocket and more recently has introduced CDS  custom dial system low profile knobs for hunting to dial in correction for known distance similar to tactical M3 type knobs and custom matched to your caliber and info.  The recent upgrades in FX3 & VX3 glass without a significant price increase says they are listening to buyers. Comments about Leupold service and repair tend to be quite positive. When you read the wording in the Tactical warranty just remember that the scope might not be covered by damage from an IED  or suitcase nuke but show me a scope that is.

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Posted By: Jon A
Date Posted: February/06/2010 at 22:15
Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

the scope might not be covered by damage from an IED  or suitcase nuke but show me a scope that is.

http://www.vortextactical.com/content/vip_warranty - Vortex.


Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/21/2010 at 13:15
Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

the strange wording in the warranty is based in the many contracts for service with military, LEO and other group buyers, which may be individually different. As far as individuals go they will cover just about anything and everything.



x2 Leupold= industry defining standard for customer service!


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: February/21/2010 at 20:41
Originally posted by Jon A Jon A wrote:

[QUOTE=Urimaginaryfrnd]the scope might not be covered by damage from an IED  or suitcase nuke but show me a scope that is.

http://www.vortextactical.com/content/vip_warranty - Vortex.
[/QUOTE
 
Are any of you running a Razor HD ?  I havent seen one yet.


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Posted By: hood5467
Date Posted: February/22/2010 at 06:57
has anyone tried one of the leupold replicas?


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: February/22/2010 at 07:51
Are you refering to the chinese copys of the leupolds?

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Posted By: hood5467
Date Posted: February/22/2010 at 20:05
yes, i saw a comparison on 1337 tactical website and the replicas did very well just wondering if anyone has tried one


Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd
Date Posted: February/22/2010 at 23:32
No I try not to buy from the chinese.

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Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 00:53
I refuse to willingly support trademark/copyright infringement. Those that do so are just as guilty as those that make and sell it. Semi Auto

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Posted By: hood5467
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 08:06
I agree with the infringement thing however if we in the USA only bought USA we wouldnt have anything to buy. Also the company i was looking at buying from strongly says replica not original.


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 08:15
You get what you pay for. (There are a few scopes made in the USA, some with foreign glass, some with Corning glass. )

And if more people bought American and not foreign, we wouldn't be selling our national soul for a few cents off at Wal Mart - but I digress.

Back to optics talk!


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Respect is something you earn.
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Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 08:46
Originally posted by hood5467 hood5467 wrote:

I agree with the infringement thing however if we in the USA only bought USA we wouldnt have anything to buy. Also the company i was looking at buying from strongly says replica not original.


 You sound like you may be one of the US dealers for the Chinese copies.  They are only legal because the Chinese Government ruled against Leupold.

I buy anything but Chinese.  The Chinese are not allies, they do not trade fairly, they share no values for the environment and conservation with the west.  I can go on and on.  I will always pay more for something made in the US or by one of our allies.  If more of us do not do the right thing, we will never turn this economy around. 

Do not support the Chinese or those that do! 


Posted By: hood5467
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 10:37
You are blaming the wrong country, The USA has allowed this too happen and over time we have created the largest industrial empire by empowering china and with the great help of our country and its wonderful NAFTA agreement we can no longer compete due to outrages union labor rates and taxes in the USA.


Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 10:48
Somethings are correct in your assessment.... The USA isn't so much to blame as is corporate greed. Politics is only a fraction of the overall problem, and yes it is a compounding problem. This is a seperate issue for the sake of keeping this response short. Still trademark infringement is trademark infringement.... It is illegal, and any support of it is just as bad as the illegal act itself. Infringement of design, is stealing, and to buy into it knowingly is aiding that effort.
SHAME ON ALL WHO KNOWINGLY HAVE DONE SO.


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An armed public are citizens. A disarmed public are subjects.

OATH KEEPER #8233 Support us, and join our cause.

Cyborg


Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 18:45
"SHAME ON ALL WHO KNOWINGLY HAVE DONE SO"

X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 18:53
Hell, I wouldn't buy a Leupold that KNEW was made by Leupold, much less one made in China.

Maybe it's the whiskey talking.


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Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.


Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 20:28
But would you buy Chinese made whiskey labeled as Jack Daniels?

Enjoy!


Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 20:29
Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Hell, I wouldn't buy a Leupold that KNEW was made by Leupold, much less one made in China.


I have been wondering when you would chime in with this comment...  Really.


Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: February/23/2010 at 21:56
No.... RC is correct... Look at what Leupold charges for their scopes, then look at what you can get from other companies for the same or nearly the same money. Leupold is over priced for what they are selling you.

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With Freedom comes great responsibility, you cannot have one without the other

An armed public are citizens. A disarmed public are subjects.

OATH KEEPER #8233 Support us, and join our cause.

Cyborg


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: February/24/2010 at 09:26
No BS, if you are in the market for a Leupold Mk4 10X, get a SuperSniper HD, and put the remaining $600 into range time and ammo.  The glass is better, the turrets are better, the durability is better, everything abut the scope is better.  Or pay $600 for the logo on an inferior scope, and the famed Customer Service - which you will, undoubtedly, need.

I've broken a few Leupolds in my time, I have yet to break a SuperSniper.  Maybe I just need to try a little harder!


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Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.


Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: February/24/2010 at 10:54
The question is..... Is Leupolds CS any better than SWFA's? Is it $600.00 better?
Then there's the whole Bigdaddy test..... Run it over with a 2500 HD Chevy. The SS survived, would the Leupold?


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With Freedom comes great responsibility, you cannot have one without the other

An armed public are citizens. A disarmed public are subjects.

OATH KEEPER #8233 Support us, and join our cause.

Cyborg


Posted By: lumberjack149
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 11:36
Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:



And if more people bought American and not foreign, we wouldn't be selling our national soul for a few cents off at Wal Mart - but I digress.

sorry for beating a dead horse but the walmart comment gets my goat. I went to college with alot of ppl that said the same thing, Walmart was the devil. These same ppl seemed to think Target was different (or any big chain store) and most of them that i knew drove hondas or toyotas, which makes no sense to me how they rip on walmart but support a Japan car company. Its impossible today to avoid the walmart effect.
They talk about how walmart destroyed small towns, but they grew up in a big city, WTF do they know about small towns. When we got a walmart in our local town is was the greatest thing ever, it kept ppl from driving a half hour to the city to spend money, it gave more jobs to locals. Everybody that i knew still dealt with the small town shops on the stuff they offered b/c you knew them and wanted to keep them afloat but for the items they didnt have you went to walmart.
I buy America whenever possible even if it means overpaying a lil bit and I understand your logic but the walmart is a poor example.


Posted By: kingston
Date Posted: February/26/2010 at 11:53
"I buy America whenever possible even if it means overpaying a lil bit"

x2!  We gotta do the right thing.



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