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Topic: what is the best china made scope
Posted By: cowski
Subject: what is the best china made scope
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 00:01
i looked through a simmons aetec master series 4x14 ,and i was surprised how clear it looked.its china made . is there any better china made scope?


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Posted By: diggler1833
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 03:40
Good thing about a scope made in China is that it makes a good inpromptu hammer after it breaks.


Posted By: tahqua
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 08:13
I'm not sure on the Voretx Crossfire, but it is a good scope for the money. For the cost of the units, I assume they are made in China. I can't find it on the box, though.

Doug


Posted By: SD Dog
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 08:23
My Crossfire has a made in China sticker on it by the turrets.

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Posted By: HOLLOWPOINT
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 12:33
TINSTAADCR (There is no such thing as a decent chinese riflescope) 
 


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Posted By: hometheaterman
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 22:39
I've had good luck with the 2 Simmons I've used as well as the 1 Tasco I've used. I have a lot of hunting friends that use Simmons and a couple that use Tasco's. While they do every once in a while have one fail they mostly seem to have decent luck with them. I think for most hunting they work decently however, their glass is no where near as clear as a higher priced scope.


Posted By: medic52
Date Posted: March/23/2010 at 22:42
Originally posted by HOLLOWPOINT HOLLOWPOINT wrote:

TINSTAADCR (There is no such thing as a decent chinese riflescope) 
 
Excellent

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Posted By: ceejayex
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 07:12
THE best chinese scopes out there are made by the company " SUM DUM YUNG FOO".
This company says they have THE best glass out there AND they are so inexpensive, why they're almost giving them away.  You can pretty much configure your own settings as far as variable power and its included in the price.  I was going to call them to thank them for this wonderful product they put out BUT, I couldn't find an address or phone number. They are probably just being modest....


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Posted By: Stonewall
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 07:55
         
 
 
 
            leupold ......
 
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Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 07:58
 
  HEY!  We're not China.......................................................................................................yet.
 
                                                            
                                                                      Bucky
 


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Posted By: HOLLOWPOINT
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 15:13
Does anyone know for sure where the lenses for the Leupy scopes come from?
 
Japan?  Thunbs Up
 
Taiwan? Smile
 
South Korea? Whatever
 
Philippines? Roll Eyes
 
Red China? Eek
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 15:36
Some day we're going to regret doing business with those intellectual-property thieving, counterfeiting, currency-manipulating, polluting, human-rights-abusing "friends" of ours. It's hard to avoid, but I've really tried not to buy anything Chinese-made if I can help it.

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Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 15:39
I know what you mean Jon but buying anti china is un-doable.  I wish there was more USA made stuff that we could get, but besides IOU's, the US hasn't produced much here lately.

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Posted By: onfinal
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 17:10
So, getting back to cowski's original question -- if we can still get there from here -- what is the best China-made scope?


Posted By: neilbilly
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 18:10
Hard to say what the best Chinese scope is. Their quality control is all over the place. You can get lucky and get a good one of about any of the Chinese stuff, but more than likely you'll get what you pay for.

Soap Box

There is something to be said for products made in a homogeneous society as the best person for the job has the job rather than filling quotas and having to put up with poor performers due to diversity directives and union intimidation. If American companies could hire the most capable/qualified person for every position then we could once more make the world standard in products. Sadly this is not possible.

Rant off.

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Posted By: John Barsness
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 18:52
Aside from the political question, Chinese optics in general have improved vastly since their first scopes started showing up over here--and they're improving every year. Their optics are getting right up there with the rest of the world, and there's no reason they can't do the mechanical stuff as well. If they make scopes as good as the Hawke and Zen Ray binoculars then their scopes will be competing very well.


Posted By: No Quarter
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 21:34
Originally posted by onfinal onfinal wrote:

So, getting back to cowski's original question -- if we can still get there from here -- what is the best China-made scope?
Mueller


Posted By: cowski
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 23:34
i was thinking simmons aetec master or vortex crossfire. why do you think mueller's better?

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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 23:39
The best Chinese made scopes I have seen so far are marketed by Hawke.  Hawke Endurance 30 are their better hunting scopes and Sidewinder 30 Tactical are the tactical ones.

I have seen a few samples of them and they seem pretty good.

ILya


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Posted By: cowski
Date Posted: March/24/2010 at 23:43
how do the hawk's compare to the simmons aetec master?

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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: March/25/2010 at 01:59
Originally posted by cowski cowski wrote:

how do the hawk's compare to the simmons aetec master?

I have not had good luck with Simmons, so for the time being there isn't a Simmons scope I would put on any of my rifles.

ILya


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Posted By: The Apostle
Date Posted: March/25/2010 at 04:20
One question I would like answered...

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Posted By: The Apostle
Date Posted: March/25/2010 at 04:22
Aren't Nikko Stirling Night-Eaters made in China??? They're pretty popular were I am.

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Posted By: slowr1der
Date Posted: March/25/2010 at 19:27
Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by cowski cowski wrote:

how do the hawk's compare to the simmons aetec master?

I have not had good luck with Simmons, so for the time being there isn't a Simmons scope I would put on any of my rifles.

ILya
What kinds of issues have you had with Simmons? Have they just not been clear? Or have they not held up? Or what?


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: March/25/2010 at 19:37
Originally posted by slowr1der slowr1der wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by cowski cowski wrote:

how do the hawk's compare to the simmons aetec master?

I have not had good luck with Simmons, so for the time being there isn't a Simmons scope I would put on any of my rifles.

ILya
What kinds of issues have you had with Simmons? Have they just not been clear? Or have they not held up? Or what?

All of the above.  Besides, considering how many times the brands has changed hands, I am in a "wait and see" mode with respect to Simmons.

ILya


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Posted By: cowski
Date Posted: March/26/2010 at 23:35
the reason i mentioned simmons is because they are popular with local hunters. i have a    aetec,  it failed within a few months. i do not think much of them either.but was wondering if they had gotten better due the the clairity of the aetec master i saw the other day.my scope was not made in china.the china made one looked clearer.


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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: March/26/2010 at 23:44
Originally posted by cowski cowski wrote:

the reason i mentioned simmons is because they are popular with local hunters. i have a    aetec,  it failed within a few months. i do not think much of them either.but was wondering if they had gotten better due the the clairity of the aetec master i saw the other day.my scope was not made in china.the china made one looked clearer.

Aetec scopes made before Simmons was sold to Meade were decent.  Meade-made ones I did not like.  The current ones (Simmons is now owned by Bushnell) I only saw at SHOT.

ILya


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Posted By: The Apostle
Date Posted: March/27/2010 at 00:34
I have heard good things over here about the Bushnell Legend scope series...according to what I found on the Internet is that they were, up until recently, made in the Phillipines but the latest ones are supposedly now made in China and now have the Rainguard feature whereas the Philly ones didn't.

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Posted By: 1911man
Date Posted: March/27/2010 at 07:42
From my experience I'd say Hawke is the best, I used one for a full month in Africa on a 9.3x62 shooting 286gr bullets with no issues. Also the quality just keeps improving.  However I have had pretty good luck with the Simmons AETEC Master series 2.8-10x44 illum, if you don't put them on a hard kicker (.30-06 or less) or semi-auto they seem to hold up well and the illum is reliable (can't be said for Leupold). I've had one on my ranch beater rifle a Ruger Hawkeye .358 Win for a couple of years, it's held up well to the ATV rides and shooting well.

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Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: March/27/2010 at 08:37
  I've got 2 Prohunter MS scopes.  The 2-7x32WA that I've had for quite a few yrs now has served me well.  Mostly on my .300.  I was given a Prohunter MS 6x42 and mounted it on my .300 but have not used it yet.  The 2-7x32WA now sits on my 9.3x62mm.  I'll be reworking/working loads up soon for both rifles so we'll see what happens.

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Posted By: helo18
Date Posted: March/27/2010 at 09:25
Never had much luck with Simmons or Tasco.  Had the Simmons fail after a month on my 300 WM, although I don't know how much it was shot before I bought the rifle with the scope on it.   I had a Tasco on my 270 fail on me as well.  Also had a Simmons fall apart on a 220 Swift.  All of that happened about 5 years ago, so I would hope the quality has improved.

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Posted By: medic52
Date Posted: March/27/2010 at 11:14
NO MORE Simmons for me either, I tried and they were not acceptable to my standards for the price range. You could get a better scope IMHO for the same money....Mueller & Hawke OK in my book for the money

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Posted By: cowski
Date Posted: March/29/2010 at 10:17
thanks for the replies i have never looked through a hawke.

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