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Topic: Eyes not as good as they use to be
Posted By: nightranger
Subject: Eyes not as good as they use to be
Date Posted: July/12/2010 at 14:53
Okay.  I was at the range yesterday.  Well actually it was my friends yineyard field that he has market out to 600 yards.    Im 48 years old and now can barely see the bullseye at 200 yards through my Zeiss 4.5X14X44.   It seems to be getting worse and worse over the last few years.  Is the answer as simple as getting a higher magnification scope or what?  Any suggestions from those of you with more years of experience.   



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Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: July/12/2010 at 15:47
 You should be able to focus that scope to see flies on a 200yd target.  Have you adjusted the fast focus?

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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/12/2010 at 16:04
I'm 63,& every 4-5 years I keep up grading to better glass with the same magnification.Problem with this is Alpha glass is very expensive so I no longer have scopes on all my rifles.my alternative seems to be don't shoot out past 300 yds.
 Problem with more magnification is you need to have less jitter,hence the need for a good bi-pod or some sort of heavy duty rest. What I really miss is using good old iron sights,which stopped 6 years ago! We can,t go back ,but we can modify & accept.D'ont be discourageded older age is just a little incovieniet.
  There are some very good eye operations that can be had to correct our problems,but do alot of reading before you decide to screw with your eyes!
  I hope this helps....


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Posted By: 300S&W
Date Posted: July/12/2010 at 16:37
 +1!!   I'm 62 and recently upgraded to some more modern scopes. It HELPED!

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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: July/12/2010 at 17:47
Gettin' old is a drag ain't it!  LOL!  It was two weeks after turning 42.  Went from 20/15 vision to needing readers.  It was like fallin' off a cliff.  better glass and set the scope up correctly for your hardening lenses. (your eyes not the scopes! ) that's why I use a side focus scope myself. So I can put the target in focus for my eyeballs.  Getting old is hell, but it beats the alternative. Big Grin


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Posted By: bugsNbows
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 12:11
Yeah, my eyesight sucks too (60 this fall). I just try to use good scopes and keep shots reasonable. 

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 12:18
I just tested 20/15...
 
Sorry...


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Posted By: Steelbenz
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 13:19
Dan you may want to go back an read my post again my brother. The clock is ticking!

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 14:32
Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

Dan you may want to go back an read my post again my brother. The clock is ticking!
"...time travels with me"...

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Posted By: rjtfroggy
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 14:52
 
  20/15 until I was 47 could read the newspaper one day and the next it was a blurr, just my right eye, of course that is my dominant eye so iron sights went bye bye and so did my lower power scopes. Now for just shooting from the bench I use a SS 20x and my hunting rifles have 4-12 on them usually set at 6x, but here in Ct. most shots are pretty close but the scopes are still needed.
 GETTING OLDER SUCKS BUT IT DOES BEAT THE ALTERNATIVE.


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Posted By: silver
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 17:26

When was the last time you have had an eye exam? It sounds like you have some other issues rather than the scope

 
My optomitist office has to have the latest and best in everything...  They are talking about an advanced system that helps measure the conture of your eyes and  then gets your script ground from that, rather than  just the flip comparison.  My optomitrist has had it done and with Crizal lenses said it is not just a reduction in glare, but like watching everything in HD.


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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 17:43
rjt,have you ever met anyone who's come back to tell you it's better here ? [:}

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Posted By: rjtfroggy
Date Posted: July/13/2010 at 20:22
 
  No but I have met plenty of people who want to take what they have here with them.


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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/14/2010 at 06:55

Big Smile



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Posted By: Graysteel
Date Posted: July/23/2010 at 10:56
I second the suggestion of having your eyes checked again. I know plenty of folks over 60 who have trouble with objects that are close but no issue through optics. There may be another issue going on. The other consideration is that maximum pupil size decreases a bit as we get older, that can make scopes appear a bit more dim, which some folks say gives the impression of a loss of contrast. 

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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/23/2010 at 13:02
There's only one thing worse then getting old & having to wear Bi-Focals ,when i'm ready to take the shot & the glasses fog up because of my excitement!Down the Toilet

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Posted By: Terry Lamb
Date Posted: July/24/2010 at 10:25
Cool
Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

There's only one thing worse then getting old & having to wear Bi-Focals ,when i'm ready to take the shot & the glasses fog up because of my excitement!Down the Toilet
Isn't that the truth! Or, as in my case, climbing a grueling 2% grade to catch up with a critter, steaming up the glasses, scope lense, and outlook on life in general. I did conquer the eyeglass thing, even at my age by going to contact lenses (they wear 24 hours a day, and remove them for cleaning one day a week). They solved the eyeglass thing, but remarkably, did nothing to otherwise diminish huffing, puffing, racing heart, nor perspiration....oh well, still one less thang.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/24/2010 at 11:46

1ST Sgt's RULES:

1) CARDIO,
2) Always put on your seatbelt,
3) Limber up,
4) Double tap (controlled pair)...
 


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Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: July/26/2010 at 12:05
I tested at 20/15 left 20/17 right last year. I thought I was going blind. I was at 20/10 in my early 20's. Doc said nothing he can find wrong, except I should take better care of my eyes in the sun. It could be age, and probably alot more due to some eye injuries from my late teen years. I can easily get by with the cheaper optics out there, but really appreciate the finer ones.
 
Now for the scopes thing..... A quick question. How are you cleaning the lenses? Deterioration of the coatings from a poor cleaning practice can easily screw up fantastic glass. I have seen any number of people use windex on scope lenses. That will absolutely ruin coatings.


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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/26/2010 at 14:56
Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

I tested at 20/15 left 20/17 right last year. I thought I was going blind. I was at 20/10 in my early 20's. Doc said nothing he can find wrong, except I should take better care of my eyes in the sun. It could be age, and probably alot more due to some eye injuries from my late teen years. I can easily get by with the cheaper optics out there, but really appreciate the finer ones.
 
Now for the scopes thing..... A quick question. How are you cleaning the lenses? Deterioration of the coatings from a poor cleaning practice can easily screw up fantastic glass. I have seen any number of people use windex on scope lenses. That will absolutely ruin coatings.
Yea, everybody knows you should use RAINEX...  JUST KIDDING...

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: billyburl2
Date Posted: July/27/2010 at 06:44

Now for the scopes thing..... A quick question. How are you cleaning the lenses? Deterioration of the coatings from a poor cleaning practice can easily screw up fantastic glass. I have seen any number of people use windex on scope lenses. That will absolutely ruin coatings.
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  Even the non-streaking formula?Bucky


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Posted By: NinjaTurtle
Date Posted: July/28/2010 at 23:25
My eyes got so bad I couldn't see the hair growing out of my ears.ShockedLASIX cured the majority of the vision problem - but at +49 years the reading glasses are here to stay. 

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Posted By: stickbow46
Date Posted: July/29/2010 at 08:04
So's the hair Wink

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Posted By: ba_50
Date Posted: July/30/2010 at 20:00

There must more than one reason for not seeing through a good scope. I need readers and have starting cataracs. I can see fine through a good scope without glasses. The only reason I can see for glasses is to see the crosshairs better, but it seems like it would be a problem looking beyond that. Crosshairs are focused at the rear anyhow. Just wondering.



Posted By: tracks
Date Posted: August/11/2010 at 14:39
Well I'm in the same boat, my eyes are that bad I'm out of rear eye focus ajustment on my scopes, going to get my eyes tested again and see if I can get some scrips which I can use with the scope,,by the way has anyone thought about getting their eyes lazered, seems that's the go now but hell if they mess up that's your eyes gone,,,


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: August/11/2010 at 14:51
I had lazer eye correction about 6 years ago.  best money i've spent. I wore contacts before and now am perfect without.  details are better and haze is none existance like i experienced before.  I recommend it to any and all considerign it.

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Posted By: scooter65
Date Posted: August/22/2010 at 09:08
Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

I had lazer eye correction about 6 years ago.  best money i've spent. I wore contacts before and now am perfect without.  details are better and haze is none existance like i experienced before.  I recommend it to any and all considerign it.
 
Graham YOU PUPPY!  We're talking 'old guy' eye degradation  Wink
 
What you can get away with at your age won't work on most of us.  Modifying your sight with correctlive glasses or laser for a young person corrects defects, but after your 40's your lenses start to harden.  The muscles around the lense are usually fine but cannot contract the lense any longer due to the hardening.  Thus you cannot focus or it takes a few minutes before you can after you strain a bit.  By the end of the day you feel very tired due to the eye strain (which is actually muscle strain). 
 
In a two year period (once I hit 44), I could no longer read fine print and it just kept getting worse... almost over night... GETTING OLD DOES SUCK


Posted By: 8shots
Date Posted: August/22/2010 at 09:14
Whats the problem, my eyesight is fine for reading....it is just my arms that are too short!!!!


Posted By: cyborg
Date Posted: August/22/2010 at 10:31
Turnip, and collard greens, and carrots are all helpful. Also fish oils have certain lipids that help to prevent the hardening of arteries and your eyes lenses. It helps also to eat red meats that are less than well done. Nuts and fruits are beneficial, as are some certain supplements, such as bilberry. L Arginine helps blood flow thru minor vessels, and can help relieve the strain of the eye muscles.
Edit to add: Plenty of good clean water too.

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With Freedom comes great responsibility, you cannot have one without the other

An armed public are citizens. A disarmed public are subjects.

OATH KEEPER #8233 Support us, and join our cause.

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Posted By: 8shots
Date Posted: August/24/2010 at 02:20
Carrots are also good for you...ever seen a bunny wearing glasses???



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