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Topic: mil reticules other than mil-dot
Posted By: space_weazel
Subject: mil reticules other than mil-dot
Date Posted: October/16/2010 at 19:32
Looking for ret's other than mil-dot, but that can still range, like trijicon's tmr that are offered on scope's under $1k

So what's out there?



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Posted By: 308 Sav
Date Posted: October/16/2010 at 21:22
mil hashes
http://swfa.com/Vortex-25-10x44-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44567.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-25-10x44-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44567.aspx

MOA hashes
http://swfa.com/Vortex-25-10x44-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44568.aspx - http://swfa.com/Vortex-25-10x44-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44568.aspx

Horus
http://swfa.com/Horus-Raptor-Rifle-Scopes-C2774.aspx - http://swfa.com/Horus-Raptor-Rifle-Scopes-C2774.aspx
http://swfa.com/Horus-Hawk-Rifle-Scopes-C2772.aspx - http://swfa.com/Horus-Hawk-Rifle-Scopes-C2772.aspx
http://swfa.com/Horus-Predator-Rifle-Scopes-C2773.aspx - http://swfa.com/Horus-Predator-Rifle-Scopes-C2773.aspx

To name a few




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Gerald Baker


Posted By: 308 Sav
Date Posted: October/16/2010 at 21:26
may I ask why you do not like the mil dot.

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Gerald Baker


Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: October/16/2010 at 22:16
Check
 
http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-Riflescopes-C3324.aspx - http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-Riflescopes-C3324.aspx
http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-5-25x50-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P47575.aspx - http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-5-25x50-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P47575.aspx
or
http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-5-25x56-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P47409.aspx - http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-5-25x56-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P47409.aspx
 
http://swfa.com/IOR-25-10x42-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P1517.aspx - http://swfa.com/IOR-25-10x42-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P1517.aspx
Falcon, Nikko, IOR,
 
They have fairly unique reticles that do a fantastic job.
 
Dirt Cheap and Very Respectable.
 
http://swfa.com/Nikko-Stirling-Diamond-Sportsman-Riflescopes-C1533.aspx - http://swfa.com/Nikko-Stirling-Diamond-Sportsman-Riflescopes-C1533.aspx
 
 
http://swfa.com/IOR-25-10x42-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P1517.aspx - http://swfa.com/IOR-25-10x42-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P1517.aspx  or
 
http://www.bwoptic.com/id4.html - http://www.bwoptic.com/id4.html
http://www.bwoptic.com/id5.html - http://www.bwoptic.com/id5.html
 
Nightforce has some neat ranging reticles...(^$$$ though)


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No one


Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: October/17/2010 at 09:37
Any reticle with uniform markings (subtensions) will allow you to range. The math is easiest and adjustments fastest with a milliradian-based reticle and matching turrets. However, there aren't a lot of scopes under a grand that will have that combination. You might also consider an MOA-based reticle and turrets. Although beware that while two scopes might be marked 1/4 MOA, one manufacturer may have chosen true MOA (1.047"/100 yards) for the turrets while the other will have mismatched the turrets to the reticle slightly by using IPHY (inches/100 yards). That error will add up at longer distances.

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Reaction time is a factor...


Posted By: space_weazel
Date Posted: October/17/2010 at 22:34
I like Mil-dot just fine, I was settled on a SS 3-9 for my R700 .308 build but I have been waffling, I would like to get something that also has at least .5 mil marks if possible, The Vortex PST I really like but they are not currently available and according to the Vortex rep I spoke to the earliest possibility  of those arriving is next year, and I would like to shoot it sooner than that.

I also have been thinking about not getting target turrets and just actually using the reticule how it was intended with hold over's, at least this way I know that when I pick up the rifle it is still zeroed where I left it, say at 200 yards, and that it hasn't been bumped / played with / or set buy me at some forgotten range from a month ago.

These are just the thoughts that have been running through my head.


Posted By: sscoyote
Date Posted: October/22/2010 at 02:33
I'd just love to try the Vortex EBR-2 with .1 mil subtension units, and tree reticle, though it's more "cluttered" than it needs to be.
I have Darrell Holland's HUMR reticle now and it's perfectly suited to long-range shooting applications, IMO.


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Steve


Posted By: Dale Clifford
Date Posted: October/22/2010 at 12:21

been using the ebr-2 in a Razor for most of the summer on several different long range guns (single turn guns, rather than single turn scopes) for around 2k rds .  It is an outstanding reticle and becoming my favorite. Several misconceptions about the Razor have seen to crop up on the net, the most being the picky eye postion. Compared to what is all I have to say. As a general comment its no worse than any other scope in this mag. range. On the lower powers the numbers disappear and the reticle is extremely fast on close targets, (500 yds) on 15x the numbers start to become more demanding on the shooters "field of attention" and ideal for "tactical" type shooting. On 20 the smaller dots snap into sharpness and  the larger reticles bars disappear leaving a mil based reticle that has only hashes and dots. Much smaller targets can be utilized by dialing in correction and just using one of the small dots. Much like a fine dot on a good long range target reticle. The scope can be used in holdover or dialed in with more refinement in holdoff than most scopes used in this area (assuming you don't won't to dial in the holdoff). The reticle acts like 3 different reticles based on your need.



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Posted By: 308 Sav
Date Posted: October/22/2010 at 18:19
Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

been using the ebr-2 in a Razor for most of the summer on several different long range guns (single turn guns, rather than single turn scopes) for around 2k rds .  It is an outstanding reticle and becoming my favorite. Several misconceptions about the Razor have seen to crop up on the net, the most being the picky eye postion. Compared to what is all I have to say. As a general comment its no worse than any other scope in this mag. range. On the lower powers the numbers disappear and the reticle is extremely fast on close targets, (500 yds) on 15x the numbers start to become more demanding on the shooters "field of attention" and ideal for "tactical" type shooting. On 20 the smaller dots snap into sharpness and  the larger reticles bars disappear leaving a mil based reticle that has only hashes and dots. Much smaller targets can be utilized by dialing in correction and just using one of the small dots. Much like a fine dot on a good long range target reticle. The scope can be used in holdover or dialed in with more refinement in holdoff than most scopes used in this area (assuming you don't won't to dial in the holdoff). The reticle acts like 3 different reticles based on your need.


Love that reticle. Might be looking into one in the PST line when it comes out. Wish the razors we in my price range lol.


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Gerald Baker



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