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Topic: First custom- First range session
Posted By: trigger29
Subject: First custom- First range session
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 09:52
Well, I've finally taken my first custom rifle to the range yesterday!
Was nothing more than break-in really, but it was a blast, and I'm already seeing that she's going to shoot! I just started loading a few up to test for pressure, and see what speeds were going to be. I started at 89 grains of Retumbo, and worked up to 92, 1 round each. Then just to have something to shoot a group with, I loaded 5 @ 90.0.



First shot was WAY off the mark, even at 50 yds, so I dialed down, and shot 2 at 100, then the final adjustment, and shot the 92 gr.





Then I put up another aiming dot, and shot 3 of the 90.0 Gr. loads.



I started getting a bit excited, and ran down there to take this picture. I should have just stayed and finished the 5 shot group, because by the time I ran back, my heart was pounding, and I'd broke my firing position. (which wasn't much, but a bipod, and a towel shoved under the back.)
I'm not too familiar with the trigger on this yet, as it's lighter, and breaks much cleaner than any of my others, so it catches me off guard a bit, and I pulled the 4th shot right. The 5th went right where it was supposed to, for this group.



Probably alright for the first one. Gunsmith told me it should start grouping at rounds 7 to 12 somewhere. These were shots 5-10. Group measured .462". Hopefully with some load work up, and work on the nut behind the bolt, she'll do even better. This group would easily have been in the .3's Had I not pulled the one right. And I knew it when the trigger broke...... I wasn't even ready yet. Anyway there she is. Hope you enjoy the pics as much as I'm enjoying her. (which isn't possible)

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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 09:58
That's awesome!

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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 10:13
The can will help with your shooting too. 

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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 11:41
Awesome my friend!!!!  Your patience was well worth it!
 
Enjoy dialing her in! Excellent


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: trigger29
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 12:00
She is a kitten to shoot with the brake on! Far less recoil than my .300 WBY. Loud as hell though. Maybe I'll shoot better when it's warmer too. Was 28*, and pretty breezy (12-15 mph) yesterday morning, and genius here wore a sweatshirt.......

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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 12:14

Yeah my 300WM long range hunter has a break on it that you can turn off.  It makes a heck of a difference  Just choose noise or kick... Smile



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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 12:17
If it don't kick Dan won't shoot itBig Grin

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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln


Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 17:59
Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

If it don't kick Dan won't shoot itBig Grin


Peddler says, I love my .257 Roberts and I like my .270 and my better half loves her new 6.5 Creedmoor but all we do is hunt in upstate NY.

Peddler   

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When you are dead, you don't know you are dead.It is difficult only for others.

It is the same when you are stupid.


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 18:32
From the backyard deck with those long shooters you got! Yippee

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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: April/25/2013 at 18:35
Hmmmm  haven't shot my 270 in a while.... and I have the new 3-15 SS SCope to try....

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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: April/26/2013 at 06:00
Jason, I bet your dying to stretch that thing out on a long range.

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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: April/26/2013 at 07:45
Excellent, Jason!!!

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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: April/26/2013 at 12:58
Very nice!!


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/26/2013 at 16:36
Excellent! 

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Posted By: garyalarson
Date Posted: July/29/2013 at 13:56
You should send those pics to Sen. Feinstein and see if she is impressed with the sub MOA? :)

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/29/2013 at 13:58
I going to send DiFi a recommendation to ban .270's... then maybe she'll leave the good stuff alone...

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: July/29/2013 at 15:37
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I going to send DiFi a recommendation to ban .270's... then maybe she'll leave the good stuff alone...


Then I'd have to get rid of my " old " and I mean old CZ BRNO 600.

Sad


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When you are dead, you don't know you are dead.It is difficult only for others.

It is the same when you are stupid.


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/29/2013 at 22:39
Jason,
 I've got to get out to visit soon.  Would love to go shooting with you.  I've renamed the 338, again.  Thanatos just didn't fit... Thanatos was the god of "gentle death"... so... Keres is the new, and final, name.  Sisters of Thanatos, the Keres... goddesses of swift, ruthless, VIOLENT death, spirits of slaughter...
 
I don't know, seems fitting...


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/29/2013 at 22:41
Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I going to send DiFi a recommendation to ban .270's... then maybe she'll leave the good stuff alone...


Then I'd have to get rid of my " old " and I mean old CZ BRNO 600.

Sad
Yeah, well, I haven't had much luck with CZ's.  I've purchased two... neither worked...CZ700 is still being repaired.

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Peddler
Date Posted: July/30/2013 at 04:56
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I going to send DiFi a recommendation to ban .270's... then maybe she'll leave the good stuff alone...


Then I'd have to get rid of my " old " and I mean old CZ BRNO 600.

Sad
Yeah, well, I haven't had much luck with CZ's.  I've purchased two... neither worked...CZ700 is still being repaired.


Well that CZ 550 looks pretty sharp.

Big Grin


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When you are dead, you don't know you are dead.It is difficult only for others.

It is the same when you are stupid.


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: July/30/2013 at 07:32
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I going to send DiFi a recommendation to ban .270's... then maybe she'll leave the good stuff alone...


Then I'd have to get rid of my " old " and I mean old CZ BRNO 600.

Sad
Yeah, well, I haven't had much luck with CZ's.  I've purchased two... neither worked...CZ700 is still being repaired.
Whats wrong with the 700?  (you should have let me win it Wink)

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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln


Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: July/30/2013 at 08:15
a few things.

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Ecclesiastes 10:2


Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: July/30/2013 at 10:38
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I going to send DiFi a recommendation to ban .270's... then maybe she'll leave the good stuff alone...


Then I'd have to get rid of my " old " and I mean old CZ BRNO 600.

Sad
Yeah, well, I haven't had much luck with CZ's.  I've purchased two... neither worked...CZ700 is still being repaired.


So what issues did you have and I take it CZ did not take care of you?


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/31/2013 at 08:22
only about 50 CZ700s were importe to US.  CZ-USA has no information on them... useless.  Their recommendation was... "find a good gunsmith".  I did... It should be ready to shoot when I get home. 
 
 
SVT... NO...


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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: SVT_Tactical
Date Posted: July/31/2013 at 09:01
lol

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"Most folks are about as happy as they make their minds up to be" - Abraham Lincoln


Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: July/31/2013 at 09:07
Just found this thread... Hijacking for a moment.

About the CZ's 

What issues are you having?

Head Space? Bolt?  Receiver to barrel?

Triggers?

I have heard of this but have purchased a fe wof them in my time with no issues but I usually buy new.

The used guns I have picked up always have issues it seems like people tinker and get them out of spec and then dump them.

The CZ 750 and 700's I have had from 147-175gr have been able to obtain accuracy and precision that you would love, 1/2 is easily achieved.

1 quickie is where is the stamp of caliber on the barrel is it right like a dollar bill or less than 1/16th above the Stock?




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Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: July/31/2013 at 09:37
head space is correct, checked and rechecked.

 trigger was hacked up,it had a shim that bound everything up, someone filed the sear and a few other parts and add the shim to make it work, it would dry fire if you walked by it to fast or shut the bolt to fast.

The safety block was filed at some point and wouldn't hold bolt back ,  but you could close the bolt in the off-safe and it would work fine until you went to on-safe-- then --not so much-- when going back to off-safe ---BOOM

extractor was not correct was in a major bind was to wide for opening of bolt and to short to catch the spring. Had to make one to fit and actually work

ejector didn't have the correct spring in it. it was  to long and wouldn't let the plunger sink into the bolt face. it had no movement. I had to make a spring/plunger and open the plunger/spring hole in bolt so it could work freely.

Its tons better now. I'm looking for a few parts and if I can't find them I'll make them.









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P&Z Firearms , Pro gun cleanings and gun repair and wood refinishing.

Ecclesiastes 10:2


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: July/31/2013 at 19:22
Wow somebody sure did a hack job on that gun.
 
You'll get working BD! Thunbs Up


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: July/31/2013 at 20:04
The big question is ... "will I ever get it back???"  I used to have a 50BMG, but I have not seen it in YEARS...

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 06:19
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

The big question is ... "will I ever get it back???"  I used to have a 50BMG, but I have not seen it in YEARS...


Man, I have always wanted to play with a 50. I hear those things are kind'of fun.


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P&Z Firearms , Pro gun cleanings and gun repair and wood refinishing.

Ecclesiastes 10:2


Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 06:59
Out of the Box Cz's are fantastic people need to keep to what they know...

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No one


Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 07:13
Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

Out of the Box Cz's are fantastic people need to keep to what they know...

I'm assuming that is not at me.


 It seem to be a nice platform.


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Ecclesiastes 10:2


Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 07:31
It was for the hack whoever butchered the reputation and quality exactness fit and performance of the Stock Cz before you were able to fix it.

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No one


Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 07:34
I have picked up 3 things in the past 3 years that I was getting as replacements of much more expensive rifles 2 of the 3 had trigger issues the other had some nut job not tighten /seat the barrel upon a thread job correctly.  It was an issue that was easily remedied but was easily avoidable.

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No one


Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 08:08
I think it comes down to not understanding what dose what. I get Remington in the shop all the time with trigger issues. They always say a friend said he could adjust it. well, he can't.... but he can turn screws.. so I show them how it works internally so they under stand it better. The CZ is a unite all to itself.


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P&Z Firearms , Pro gun cleanings and gun repair and wood refinishing.

Ecclesiastes 10:2


Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 08:34
Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

The big question is ... "will I ever get it back???"  I used to have a 50BMG, but I have not seen it in YEARS...


Man, I have always wanted to play with a 50. I hear those things are kind'of fun.
Great for shooting pink targets...

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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.

There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living


Posted By: budperm
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 08:39
Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

The big question is ... "will I ever get it back???"  I used to have a 50BMG, but I have not seen it in YEARS...
 
Your second wife has given you visitation rights and when you do visit you usually go hunting so quit yer whining... Smile


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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
--Thomas Jefferson





Posted By: Bigdaddy0381
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 08:42
The 50's target was not pink...






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P&Z Firearms , Pro gun cleanings and gun repair and wood refinishing.

Ecclesiastes 10:2


Posted By: 338LAPUASLAP
Date Posted: August/01/2013 at 10:05
Comparatively,  I would take the CZ over the rem 700 any day.Peeker  And do I have replaced all 700's and 70's with them...

I do believe they do things simple and right once.  I think the quality and technology used from barrel making to action is a little higher.

Lots of rounds lots of accuracy crisp trigger and SST.

Smooth Action, good lock up.

Once played with they are never the same very few improvements less trigger.


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No one



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