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Topic: Need a little long range help
Posted By: cbm
Subject: Need a little long range help
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 12:28
Cooper .30-06 Excalibur with Luepold standard rings/bases and a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44 ZRF TT. Went out last weekend and shot long range for the first time(over 300-400yrds).
 
I ran out of adjusment in my scope about 760-775 yrds. I was hitting about 8-12" low at 785 yrds. I was hitting pretty good though, especially off just a card table with a sandbag. I couldn't shoot at the 1000 yrd target because of my scope limitations. He had 4 targets at 100-400-785-1000.
 
Do you guys think, if I got a 10moa picatinny base and changed my rings out I could get close to 1000y and keep a moderate zero? Enough to hold over a little(3-5ft) at 1000y.
 
How much info do you need ? I was zero'd at 100 and needed 5.5moa to hit dead on at 400 and I ran out of adjustment at 17moa(hitting a little low at 785y). I will check to see if I can crank my scope down 10moa when I get home tonight, so I can keep a good zero range for hunting(100-200y). Shooting Win ballistic Silvertip 168's (.475BC), velocity ??? but definately more than the package states at 2790.
 
Wow, that is some fun stuff though!! I thought I missed the first couple of times at 785 because it took so long to hit.



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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 12:39
I'd get a 20 MOA rail. 

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 13:11
I don't think he has enough adjustment with that scope for a 20MOA rail...

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Posted By: jonoMT
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 13:13
Yep. A 20MOA rail is going to be a better bet for most scopes, esp. for a .30-06.

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 13:28
20MOA won't fly with that scope...

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Posted By: BeltFed
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 14:00
Just off hand, I think that scope has 25 MOA of adjustment so he may be able to get away with a 20MOA base.


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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 14:43
25 moa on a Conquest 4-14, really?

If so, a 20moa  base is gonna be really, really tricky!


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Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: April/30/2014 at 16:43
This scope has 42.8 MOA of total elevation adjustment. If his zero at 100yds is at the mechanical center he would have 1.4 MOA left with a 20MOA base.


Posted By: cbm
Date Posted: May/01/2014 at 08:05
Hey guys, thanks for the help. Checked my scope and it appears I have about 28min of adjustment down/17min up. My rings are medium because Coopers will not eject shells with low rings and target turrets. So I guess a 20 moa base would work?? I have to find one too, Ken Farrell is out of the 20moa for my style but I think Cooper sells them.


Posted By: Sparky
Date Posted: May/01/2014 at 09:21
I would check with SWFA. They probably have what you need.


Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: May/01/2014 at 13:20
If you have 17 up, a 10MOA base will work.  I don't know for sure on conquest put some scopes do not work well near the edges of their adjustment range.

I didn't run the numbers, but your 168s will be near the end of their useful range.  

Shooting at that distance is a challenge.  You might be surprised at the differences between a 700 yard shot and a 1,000 yard shot, they are severe.


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Posted By: cbm
Date Posted: May/01/2014 at 16:10
I know your right but man that 1000y target was just sitting there taunting me!! I got to try it !!


Posted By: Ernie Bishop
Date Posted: May/09/2014 at 05:50
Shooting at distance is a lot of fun, and yes those targets will taunt youBig Grin


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