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Best lightweight 1x variable under $600?

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Forum Description: Police and military tools of the trade
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Printed Date: November/21/2017 at 09:27


Topic: Best lightweight 1x variable under $600?
Posted By: atp
Subject: Best lightweight 1x variable under $600?
Date Posted: September/10/2017 at 05:51
I like my SWFA HD 1-6x24, but at 22 oz and $1000 it's both heavy and expensive. My other baseline low-power scope is the Nikon 1-4x20 (Monarch 3, formerly the "African"), which although obviously simpler (no illumination), is pretty nice for a $280, 12 oz scope.

So I'm curious about good quality, low-power (1x bottom) variable scopes that are noticeably lighter than the SWFA HD 1-6x24, and hopefully also cheaper, while still being a step up in capability over the Nikon. Primarily for use on an AR-15. What would you recommend for that niche?

Some possible candidates are listed below (most of which I know little about), along with the SWFA SS HD and Nikon I already own:

- $1000, 22.4 oz, https://swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-1-6x24-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html - SWFA SS HD 1-6x24 Tactical
- $580, 17.3 oz, https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/118543/ - Steiner 1-4x24 P4Xi
- $400, 14.1 oz, https://swfa.com/swfa-ss-1-4x24-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html - SWFA SS 1-4x24 Tactical
- $399, 14.5 oz, https://swfa.com/burris-1-4x24-mtac-30mm-rifle-scope.html - Burris 1-4x24 MTAC
- $397, 16.4 oz, https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/118235/ - Nikon 1-4x24 Black Force 1000
- $395, 17.1 oz, https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/118108/ - Leatherwood 1-4x24 CMR4
- $310, 16.6 oz, https://swfa.com/hawke-1-4x24-endurance-30mm-riflescope.html - Hawke 1-4x24 Endurance
- $270, 17.3 oz, https://swfa.com/bushnell-1-4x24-ar-optics-30mm-rifle-scope-1.html - Bushnell 1-4x24mm AR Optics BTR-1
- $277, 12.2 oz, https://swfa.com/nikon-1-4x20-monarch-3-riflescope-1.html - Nikon 1-4x20 Monarch 3
- $175, 8.5 oz, https://swfa.com/weaver-1-3x20-classic-v-rifle-scope.html - Weaver 1-3x20 Classic V



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Posted By: Greenhorn#1
Date Posted: September/10/2017 at 07:44
I've got a 1x6 strike eagle and it's a boat anchor . A good friend has a pride fowler that is light weight and seems well made . Think he got his right around 350 bucks . Just comparing the vortex and fowler I can't say I noticed a difference in image or clarity . I've noticed that when I switch ammo and make adjustments on the strike eagle the adjustments aren't repeatable . If that makes sense . Sorry man I'm a rookie and can't help more . Check out the pride fowler as well . His adjustments seemed more crisp and I would also check out SIG . Two companies I didn't see on your list and maybe for a reason . Have a good day sir .


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: September/10/2017 at 10:35
I am testing Burris RT6 and like it a lot. It is really my favorite of the budget 1-6x scopes. It is around 17ozs, so it is not the lightest, but quite respectable.

If you can live with something that is not true 1x on the bottom, consider Leupold VX-R 1.25-4x20. it has a very bright for and weighs around 12oz.

ILya

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Posted By: atp
Date Posted: September/11/2017 at 12:43
That https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/118183/ - $349, 17.4 oz Burris http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/rt-6-riflescopes-series/rt-6-riflescope-1-6x24mm - RT-6 1-6x24mm must be very new, no picture yet on SWFA. How would you say it compares quality-wise to other scopes?

Hm, I'll have to think about that Leupold VX-R option. I didn't realize it was only 12 ounces, same as the Nikon 1-4x20. Ilya, which reticle do you personally like there? I see four different ones (all illuminated), https://swfa.com/leupold-1-25-4x20-vx-r-30mm-riflescope.html - Duplex $500, https://swfa.com/leupold-1-25-4x20-vx-r-30mm-riflescope-2.html - Circle $550, https://swfa.com/leupold-1-25-4x20-vx-r-hog-30mm-riflescope.html - Pig Plex $550 (which is a weird looking circle reticle), and https://swfa.com/leupold-1-25-4x20-vx-r-patrol-30mm-riflescope.html - SPR $600 (with uncapped turrets).


Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: September/11/2017 at 16:11
RT-6 is pretty new indeed, but it is in production and very good for the money.  I like it more than Vortex' Strike Eagle.

With VX-R reticle, the choice is sorta personal.  I kinda like that goofy Hog reticle.

ILya


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Posted By: Rancid Coolaid
Date Posted: September/12/2017 at 06:25
Does the pig plex actually say " pig plex" on the horizontal?

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Posted By: Kickboxer
Date Posted: September/12/2017 at 09:48
Yes, it does...

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Posted By: Son of Ed
Date Posted: September/14/2017 at 05:39
Does anybody know what the eye relief is on the Nikon Monarch? I want to put something like this on my Winchester 75 Sporter 22.....I want something lightweight that doesn't have eight miles of eye relief like the Leupolds....I would like to hold the rifle up on my shoulder instead of looking through the scope from across the street and firing the gun with a string!! 





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Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: September/14/2017 at 06:23
The "new" Monarch's typically have 4" of eye relief, all through the power range.  

The older ones, (like you sold me) more like 3.5" @ full magnification.  


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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: September/14/2017 at 09:14
New Monarchs have fairly long eye relief. If this is for a 22, try Weaver Rimfire scopes. Also, Leupold 3-9x33 EFR has a tad over 3" of eye relief.

ILya

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