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    Posted: September/01/2012 at 21:13
I have wanted a single shot in either a break action or falling block for a few years.  What do you guys think of the Rugers?  How is the accuracy, quality, etc?  Not sure what caliber yet.
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I have two... one .458 Lott, one .458WM.  They are both exceedingly accurate, very nice.  Among my favorite of rifles.  I am going to get one in 45-70.  That should round out my .45 caliber rifles.  I'm also thinking of a few others.  With a little practice, it is surprisingly fast to reload... surprisingly...
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I was thinking either 25-06 or 300 WM to start.  More towards the 300.  
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I would go for .300WM.  I'm actually thinking of getting one in .300H&H.  I like that caliber a lot...  Truthfully, the Ruger #1 seems a little wasted to me unless it is a MAGNUM caliber...
It has a wonder "feel", balance is amazing and recoil is not as heavy as expected...  If I could TRULY only have one rifle, I would have to go with the Ruger #1 .458 Lott.  "Guaranteed to knock down anything on the planet..."  Gotta love it...
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Interesting rifle. I have the opportunity to purchase one in 458WM for about $800. Not sure if that is a fair price or not. It is in good condition. For some reason I want it. I don't know why but I want it.
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I only have one #1 left...it's a 300 H&H mag in the 1-S configuration...my favorite. Gotta love single shots and the #1 is elegant and functional. What's not to like? Good luck. 
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$800 is a "fair" price.  Not the best, not the worst...
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Thoughts on the 458WM cal?
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I picked my 45-70 up for $400 some years back. The trigger is nice and crisp and the quality is a notch up from my other Rugers.
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Thoughts on the 458WM cal?

With today's improved powders and bullets, the 458WM can finally nearly live up to it's promise... much better than in it's early years.  Ir is a reasonable dangerous game caliber and will certainly take anything on the North American continent...
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I'm a falling block SS slut.  My favorite  of the type is the Dakota Model 10, but the Ruger No 1 is very nice too.  To me, the No 1 isn't as sleek, graceful, or as well-balanced as the Model 10, nor does it have the fit, finish, and wood quality of the M10, but it's also 1/3 the price.

Ruger used to put a much higher grade of wood on their No1 than their other rifles, but it seems wood quality has declined in recent years, around the time they changed from the "red" recoil pad to the black pad and the change in checkering pattern shape in the buttstock grip.  You can still find the occasional No 1 with exceptional wood, but the average No 1 of current mfg has much plainer wood than they did 20-30 years ago.  I still love the No 1 regardless, with my favorite config being those with the more slender, shorter Alex Henry style forend rather than the wider beavertail forend.  The No 1 action has a solid feel and look to it, and working the lever gives you the impression of vault-like strength.

Accuracy of No 1s is a crapshoot.  They have better barrels now than they did 20+ years ago, once Ruger started hammer forging their own barrels rather than purchasing the barrel blanks.  So, my totally unscientific opinion is that they shoot better now than they used to.

The problem, if there is one, usually arises from the hammer spring hangar that the forend attaches to.  The forend can move around and apply pressure on the barrel and front of the receiver when shooting from a rest, to the detriment of precision.  The hangar is also the source of vibrations from the long spring driving the hammer that gets transmitted through the receiver and barrel.  The solution is to do a combination of bedding the forend to the hangar, sand the rear edge of the forend so there's slight clearance between it and the front of the receiver and makes sure the forend has "float" clearance between it and the barrel.  The other accurizing trick is to drill and tap a screw hole in the end of the hangar forward of the spring, and put a socket head set screw in the hangar to apply slight upward pressure against the barrel.  Then, you can "tune" barrel vibrations by varying the amount of upward pressure of the set screw.  I've personally done all of the above and can attest to accuracy improvements from these modifications.  I don't want to give the impression that these mods are needed on all No 1's because they certainly aren't, it's just that the design isn't without flaws.  I've shot plenty of No 1's that were superbly accurate right out of the box, namely a 1-V in 6mm Rem a buddy of mine had. 

More than anything, I just think the No 1 has a certain "cool factor" beyond its price tag.
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IMO the Ruger #1 is an excellent rifle, and I don't think you will be the least bit sorry If you buy one. 
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Got 2 No. 1B's: a .270 Wtby. Mag. and a 6mm Rem. both are sub MOA rifles.
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The single most accurate rifle I have ever had was my Ruger #1 300 Weatherby. I could start throwing some 200 accubond group sizes around, but it would be hard to believe, and it doesn't really matter. I sold it because I found a buyer that would pay way more than I did, and I thought I wanted a bolt gun. I was (am?) an idiot. I never should have sold that wonderful rifle. there are many great positives to the #1. They look great, they shoot great, they are sleek, they are compact even with long barrels, and you never have to worry about magazine size. Seat your pills out as far as you want.

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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

The single most accurate rifle I have ever had was my Ruger #1 300 Weatherby. I could start throwing some 200 accubond group sizes around, but it would be hard to believe, and it doesn't really matter. I sold it because I found a buyer that would pay way more than I did, and I thought I wanted a bolt gun. I was (am?) an idiot. I never should have sold that wonderful rifle. there are many great positives to the #1. They look great, they shoot great, they are sleek, they are compact even with long barrels, and you never have to worry about magazine size. Seat your pills out as far as you want.

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LOL. I've bought and sold a few #1's myself. It is what it is. Don't beat yourself up too much. Wink
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I would go for .300WM.  I'm actually thinking of getting one in .300H&H.  I like that caliber a lot...  Truthfully, the Ruger #1 seems a little wasted to me unless it is a MAGNUM caliber...
It has a wonder "feel", balance is amazing and recoil is not as heavy as expected...  If I could TRULY only have one rifle, I would have to go with the Ruger #1 .458 Lott.  "Guaranteed to knock down anything on the planet..."  Gotta love it...
 
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A pleasant, rolling recoil... kind of like a nudge from a beautiful lady...
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I love my number 1's. I have a Stainless/Walnut light sporter in 6.5x55 Swede that will shoot one ragged hole 5-6 shot groups. And I have a Stainless/laminate 1B in .270Win that is nearly as accurate but not near as pretty. My #1 Swede is the only rife I have that NOT for sale at any price.
 
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I don't disagree with any of the comments about the Rugers, but would also suggest a glance at one of the Browning - Winchester models.  I have a pair of B78's, one in 22-250 with heavy round barrel and one in '06 with light octagon barrel.  The 22-250 is very accurate, and the '06 is accurate enough for any hunting purpose.  I mostly bought them because I got a good price, and thought (and still think) they are beautiful rifles.  Browning changed to the B85, but I'm not an expert on what changed (they look about the same). One thing I do notice - the stock design on the '06 causes it to deliver noticeably more recoil than other '06s, though it's not intolerable.  Obviously, that's not an issue on the 22-250.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the exposed hammer of the HiWall design and the graceful curve of the lever give it an elegance that few other rifles can match (although I admit the Ruger is also a handsome design). 
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Originally posted by miragetex miragetex wrote:

I don't disagree with any of the comments about the Rugers, but would also suggest a glance at one of the Browning - Winchester models.  I have a pair of B78's, one in 22-250 with heavy round barrel and one in '06 with light octagon barrel.  The 22-250 is very accurate, and the '06 is accurate enough for any hunting purpose.  I mostly bought them because I got a good price, and thought (and still think) they are beautiful rifles.  Browning changed to the B85, but I'm not an expert on what changed (they look about the same). One thing I do notice - the stock design on the '06 causes it to deliver noticeably more recoil than other '06s, though it's not intolerable.  Obviously, that's not an issue on the 22-250.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the exposed hammer of the HiWall design and the graceful curve of the lever give it an elegance that few other rifles can match (although I admit the Ruger is also a handsome design). 


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http://www.bullberry.com/  I went the Encore route with multiple barrels.  Knowing what I do now I would just buy only the Bullberry barrel and their fore end rather than suffering the TC brand barrels.
As for 300 WM while I own several I much prefer to reload 300WSM which has no belt on the magnum case the belt does not get resized which can be a problem with a tight chamber. If I were shooting factory ammo that would not be an issue but for me if I dont reload I cant afford to shoot.  I have had one Ruger #1 it was a stainless 30-06 and I was not impressed with its accuracy I would buy a Tikka instead if I wanted accuracy right out of the box or at least a Savage, but I do like the look and feel of the Ruger and it's an ejector rather than an extractor like the TC so a bit faster to load.

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Thanks guys.  I will take a look at the other stuff as well.
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i just handled one in a .450 nitro today, it was a very nice rifle.
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