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    Posted: November/11/2012 at 13:59
I'm trying to get a birthday gift for my husband. He has a bushmaster AR-15 Varminter .223. I've looked all over the internet, and confused as ever. Sad I don't know what to look for, or which brand is better. All I know is he wants something that has 500 yards accuracy. My budget is around $500-600. Please help me. What criteria should I consider? Do you have any suggestions?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/11/2012 at 14:47
Welcome to Optics Talk. 

Is he shooting critters mostly, or paper? 
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Mostly paper at the range. Thank you. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/11/2012 at 15:20
I use this scope on my AR. (Mine is an older version, but virtually the same.) 

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53712.aspx

He will also need a mount, I assume? 

http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P48134.aspx

I have this setup on my AR and love it. 
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I'll check it out. Thank you. 
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Hang around here for a spell and get some other ideas. The gang will be back tomorrow and can give you some other suggestions, as well. 

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Thank you very much! I think he'd probably prefer a variable scope. I'm looking at 4.5-14x50 scopes. But I'm not sure if this would be ideal for a 500 yrd range. I'm willing to stretch my budget a little bit if needed. Anyway, thank you very much for your suggestions. Will see what others suggest also. Take care, Niki.
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Since you mentioned a 4.5-14x50 I am guessing that is something he has talked about. So you know about what he would like. I would look strongly at the Zeiss 4.5-14x44 conquest off the sample list. It is $600 with a list price of $830 and is a factory refurbished from Zeiss with a Lifetime transferable warranty. I have not seen a factory refurbished scope from Zeiss, but from what I have read it is hard to tell the difference between one and a new one. This one has a mil dot reticle.

http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P59323.aspx

And if he would prefer a normal reticle

http://www.samplelist.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P58474.aspx
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I'll check that out too. Thank you! 
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There are two ways to accurately shoot long range.  1. a reticle with hold over marks like this:
SPL16847Zeiss 4.5-14x50 Conquest Rifle Scope DEMO-B
Click to view5214919972, Matte, Rapid Z 800, 1"
$649.95
The Zeiss  Conquest is a very solid choice and the Rapid Z 800 reticle would make it useable at long distances by using hold over marks.

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The other way is to use tactical knobs to dial in correction to compensate for the trajectory of the bullet which drops as it gets farther from the barrel .
SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm RiflescopeSWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42MQ
  • Matte
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95

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I also like some of the scopes that are a bit more expensive and I will show you a couple that I own which I like very much. I also own both of the ones I posted above as well.   The Super Sniper scopes have a lot more adjustment than most other brands.  For a mount I would use either Bobro or La Rue mounts that are slightly forward. Of these scopes all are 30 mm  tube except the Zeiss which is a 1 inch tube. Of the scopes mentioned my first choice would be one of the 5-20 preferably the SS but in the lower price range I would probably pick the Zeiss because there is a lot of difference between 9x and 14x on the top end.
Bobro Precision Optic 30mm Mount Bobro Precision Optic 30mm Mount
Stock # - BOBB03201300
  • 30mm
  • Low
  • Slightly Forward
$209.95 
Bobro Precision Optic 1 Bobro Precision Optic 1" Mount
Stock # - BOBB03201254
  • 1"
  • Low
  • Slightly Forward
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Trijicon 5-20x50 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope Mil-Dot Crosshair w/ Green Dot Trijicon 5-20x50 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - TR222G
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot Crosshair w/ Amber Dot
  • 30mm
  • Free Sun Shade w/ Purchase
$1,082.95 
SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQ
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,299.95 


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What a lucky man...

Might I suggest another type of scope.

I believe the one on the sample list would be superb. Also another one to look at is this.


http://swfa.com/Zeiss-45-14x44-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P8672.aspx

This scope has a $100 rebate.

Another scope that might be worth a look even though it is less money is the

http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/SII-Series---Big-Sky/SIIB41642HHR/

Sold on SWFA as well.

Also has $100 rebate right now.

http://swfa.com/Sightron-4-16x42-SII-Big-Sky-Riflescope-P55331.aspx


This is not as well known as the Zeiss but has very similar performance.
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The best thing my wife every did was give me a Visa gift card for a scope and I purchased it myself.


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