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SAKO 75 SS
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Posted: April/04/2004 at 20:12 |
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I recently bought a T/C Omega muzzleloader, and I am new to muzzloader hunting. What would be a good magnification to go with? What do you think about a fixed power scope?
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Roy Finn
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Great muzzleloader pick. I am new to the sport and purchased a Knight Disc Extreme 50 cal. and mounted a first generation Leupold Vari-X lll 1.75-6x32 ( approx. 10 inchs long ) on Leupold QR scope mounts which I know they make for your T/C. A friend of mine has a T/C Encore with a Leupold VX ll 2-7 x 33 and it was a VERY tight fit due to the relationship between the objective housing and the rear sight. Due to the recoil of these muzzleloaders when stuffed with 3 pellets and a 250-300 gr. bullet, you don't want mount your scope without factoring in proper eye relief. The reason I made mention of the QR mounts is because the laws in effect with regards to scopes on muzzleloaders. The ability to remove the scope when necessary is a great feature, not to mention the strengh and repeatability of zero is remarkable with the QR system. Perhaps you will not encounter the same mounting issue due to the fact that you own an Omega. As far as a fixed power scope is concerned, well it's kind of like a haircut. You can make it shorter, but you can't make it longer!
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retiredsquid
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My son and I both own T/C Omega .50cal rifles now. I am impressed with this rifle and the simplicity of it compared to the Rem 700ML I owned before this rifle. We use the new Hodgdon 777 pellets and find two pellets to be sufficient for hunting whitetails here in the Ozarks. We also use the TC sabots, too.
Currently, I have a Simmons 8 Point 3-9X scope mounted on mine. I am thinking about putting this scope on my son's rifle and mounting a new Leupold shotgun 2-7X33 with Heavy Duplex reticle on mine. The Simmons seems clear enough and I've never experienced any problems with it, but it certainly isn't in the same league as the Leupold for sure. Regards, Rich |
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I recently picked up an Omega for a trip to Africa. I put a Nikon 2.5-10x50 Monarch Gold on it. This one has the 30mm tube and German #4 reticle (heavy duplex without the top post) and it is simply an amazing scope. I ended up getting a Warne base for it and it is a little short. The eye relief is so long on the Monrach that I could not get it far enough away from my eye to get a full sight picture. Of course this was partly due to the fact that I was using a t-shirt and had a very short base to work with. With a jacket on or a longer base, which would facilitate moving the scope further toards the bore, you would be fine. I guess what I am trying to say is that if eye relief is important, I don't think I've seen a scope with as much eye relief as this one, and I have many different kinds and brands.
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martin3175
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For mounts...Leupold makes a good one ( Encore shares same set-up ) , or you could try Talley's new set up , it's a easy one piece base/rings combo... For scope choice, no need to go 50mm hi-powered scope considering the range limitations of a BP rifle...I have a Leupold VX III 2.5x8 and it's ideal...Other good choices would be a 1.5-6 4200 Elite, 2-7 3200 Elite,Nikon 2-7 Monarch ( although quality from Phillipine made scopes aren't as good as they were with Japanese manufacture ) , Burris Signature 1.5x6 or 2-5 Fullfield , Pentax 2.-5 Whitetails Unlimited, or Zeiss's offerings.... Fixed power scopes are a decent choice- less $ and very durable, but they'll limit you if a " close-up" verification of rack size. etc, may be needed...
Enjoy the Omega- easily the most consistently accurate muzzleloader I've seen... Edited by martin3175 |
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STWSniper
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Burris Fullfield Ii 3-9x40 would be my pick. I also like a Leupold 2.5-8x36 for a muzzleloader. Burris does have the Ballistic Plex reticle which works great with a muzzleloader.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - January/10/2008 at 08:30 |
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Chris Farris
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If you can wait until next year, Nikon is making a special scope just for that rifle and its even named the Omega. Will have a specially calibrated reticle......really cool.
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Urimaginaryfrnd
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Option # 2 buy a tactical scope and dial in the clicks to correspond to known distance. Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - January/10/2008 at 08:31 |
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Wvladimire
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Fixed power scopes are generally more rugged, durable, and easier to use than a variable
powered model. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, it is more of a personal preference, I prefer a fixed power model. For a shotgun or muzzleloader all you need is a 4-6 power scope with either a 32 or 40mm objective. Some would say that or think that these objectives will be poor performers in low light conditions, but you have to remember that the lower the power, the brighter the image. Brightness and parralex only come into play when you are at or above 8x magnification. As to what scopes to get here is a link that gives advice http://www.chuckhawks.com/ muzzleloading_scopes_price.htm Also you may want to consider the I.O.R. fixed 4x32 hunting scope. Their glass is simply amazing. When I got my first I.O.R. scope, I sold all my Nikon's, Burris, Leupold's, and SS scopes to switch over to I.O.R., because once I saw what really good glass was, it put the others to shame. |
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hunterman67
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my omega has the leupold VX-I 3-9x40 heavy duplex reticle in matte. it does not interfere with the trigger at all but if it did the kit to extend the trigger is easy and cheap to install. the omega is realtree hardwoods and stainless, and I bought a one piece base/ring set from www.talleyscoperings.com they have several different heights and finishes available in the aluminum one piece mounts. I personally placed the realtree hardwoods medium on my omega and it matches my rifles stock just perfectly. the leupold scope will outlast me as it is made for shotgun/muzzle loaders. the warranty is great, it is variable power, great light gathering, and the 1 piece aluminum base/ring set hold it in place nicely. I shoot my muzzleloader out to 250 with no worries. I shoot 245 grain aero tip powerbelts with 130 grains of pyrodex pellets and keep a 5-6 inch group on a 9" paperplate at 250 yards. that is good enough to hunt any animal I`ve heard of, maybe bigger bullets though- lol. heres a pic of the 1 piece base/ring set up, and the scope, and muzz.
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martin3175
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Cool stuff~
I've had great luck with T/C's new super glide bonded 250 gr sabot and 130 gr of 777 pellets ( approaches MOA and knocks'em down with no worries ) Edited by martin3175 - December/28/2007 at 11:42 |
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