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    Posted: August/14/2009 at 22:19
I do some shooting, sitting (with a sling), some ofhand (without sling), some prone and some kneeling(with sling)  First, what should I do to limit the strain on my neck in prone.(I'm just over 50, in reasonably good shape perhaps 10-15 lbs overweight). Second, in the kneeling position(with sling) I find I have more horizontal movement than I think I should have, any thoughts on what would be the cause? Thank you. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RONK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/14/2009 at 23:09

 I have the same problems with neck problems when prone. It's a real endurance contest for me to last the prone stages of a Hi-Power National Match Course or an Old Military match. I think stretching exercises and regular practice help more than anything.

 Not a fan of the kneeling position at all, so really I don't ever use it. It's not much higher than sitting, to see over grass, and not much steadier than offhand standing.
I'm pretty deadly in a solid sitting position with a properly adjusted sling, though.
 It's my favorite field/hunting position, so I use it whenever possible. The correct sling and it's proper adjustment are everything.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billyburl2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/15/2009 at 01:46
Also make sure forward elbow is not resting on bone. Could be causing your wobble.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/15/2009 at 15:40
Urban prone comes to mind, but that is for shots within 100 or so meters from behind cover....
 
 
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Thanks for your help. I should have tried stetching, don't know why I never thought of it B4. I've alternated and tried elbow to knee and forearm to knee and can't really say one works better than the other but I understand the problem with elbow/knee contact. I'll keep trying. I also use a good sling and it makes a HUUUGGEEE difference. Mr Ronk, you say "deadly in a solid sitting position", would you mind telling me just how deadly? What can you do with say, 5 shots @200yds? Your "always" 5 shot group,cent-cent and your best 5 shot group @200 from the sit with sling. I know you're not bragging, just informing me what a good shot should be. Thanks to all, it helps.
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 I think the last time I shot a group for measure at 200 yards from a sitting position, it went about six inches extreme spread for ten shots in fairly rapid succession, from my Ar15.
 
 Certainly not a Benchrest group by any means, but I wouldn't want to be at that end of things, either...
 I should get back into steady practice and seriously document it at a more deliberate pace...
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Thank you Ronk, I shoot a 308 bolt gun and while I don't time myself I don't waste much time either. I've never fired group for 10, only 5, but I suppose I should. 10 into 6" rapid is impressive. Is that a 1-9 twist with heavy bullet?
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Sorry Ick my computer won't let me access that sight. I've shot in Pennsylvania a couple of times, beautiful country, nice people.
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Originally posted by big boar big boar wrote:

Thank you Ronk, I shoot a 308 bolt gun and while I don't time myself I don't waste much time either. I've never fired group for 10, only 5, but I suppose I should. 10 into 6" rapid is impressive. Is that a 1-9 twist with heavy bullet?
 
 Yes, it is a 20" H-BAR, 1-9.  69 grain Matchkings.
 
 I'm really more proud of the two quick lung hits on a 250-yard Montana antelope from a sitting position from my Remington 700 30-06.
 I punched him with the second one at a dead runjust as his front legs started to fold from the first shot.
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Ronk, good shooting, must have been all that practice with the AR. I enjoy reading about difficult shots, even the misses.
 
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Ronk, meant to ask, what scope were you using and what power was it set at. (After all this is an Optics forum.) What load/weight in the '06.
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 I have an IOR 2.5-10x42 on my AR and a late 70's- era Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8X 36 on my 700. I usually set it at 4x when hunting, probably had it a little higher on the antelope hunt.
 I had kind of figured him to run a bit even if hit hard, and had set up my sitting position to be able to move a little with him in the direction he was facing. 
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big boar,

What's great is that you're shooting from different positions and all ones that you might use in the field. There's a place for bench rest shooting but I try to avoid it other than for sighting in or load testing. I've only once shot an animal offhand but probably do more of that than anything else when walking around with my .22. Sitting is better than kneeling but you may find yourself in an awkward spot where you can't park it, so practice both.
Reaction time is a factor...
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