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I have a 19 second video of the shot Trigger29 is talking about. Would like to post it. Have it on Vimeo on my I-phone. Wildebeest went down like hit with a truck. Need some advise on how to post it.
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I have become a real advocate of the 308 Win in any barrel length. The cartridge is very efficient and economical to reload. The factory ammo is OK, but you can safely squeeze a lot more out of it with the right reloading components. Using Trigger 29's 150 gr BD bullet and Leverevolution powder and a good custom 24" barrel they can be pushed to 3100 fps and have a trajectory almost identical to a 7mag. I know this is heresy in some circles, but it is true. Not trying to stir controversy or saying that the 308 is better than a 7 mag. Just letting 308 guys know that their gun is better than they think, and like 56 Chevy, can be souped up a bit from stock.
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I'm waiting for the go light to go green with the 168s. Not that I think you guys are sitting on your hands or anything! LOL!
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Very soon. They'd be done, but we had a little tooling issue.
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Well I would like to report I shot a doe sunday on opening weekend of gun season with it. Ruger Hawkeye with a 16.5 in barrell, and a Zeiss Duralyt 2x8x42 Scope. 

She came out in the cutover about 35 yards in front of me and was making tracks. I bleated 3 times to get her to stop, and when she did, I hammered her. 165 grain hornady american whitetail ammo. Dropped her in her tracks. DRT. 

That ammo just works. I shot 2 deer with the 150 grain version in 308 out of the same gun, and the results where the same. DRT. 

Love the scope too. It is bright and crystal clear. I may have to have the 700 Tac resighted with it. 
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I was thinking of putting those 168s into my 300 blackout but might run them in my sons PSS just to see what they do!
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

I was thinking of putting those 168s into my 300 blackout but might run them in my sons PSS just to see what they do!

With a splash of of Vargay and you're off. Stiring The Pot 
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Still have a few lbs of the stuff in my safe! I moved over to RL-17.
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I found the Federal Premium JSP in 165gr to be the most accurate and works very well on deer.

But honestly, the any 150-165gr JSP will do.

As far as distance for the kill...If you can hit the target, you can make the kill.
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Well I am a little unhappy with my ammo now. Shot a doe saturday at 100 yards. Same gun as above. Gun is dead on at 25, so it should be 2 to 2.5 inches high at 100 according to Nikon's spot on program. I aimed a little low, heart area, steady rest, squeezed, and deer jumped straight up and took off. I found a small amount of hair at the shot sight, and tracks off the green field, but no blood. 

I did manage to find some blood, but no deer. The rain wasn't helping my situation any. Based upon where my bullet "should have" gone, this would have been a double lung shot. No reason to suspect the gun is off, but I will test fire it this week to see. 

I really want something that goes in, and there is fragmentation and then the majority of the bullet exits.

This always seems to happen to me when I take a deliberate shot and try to adjust for my sight in, I end up not finding the deer, or not getting a good clean kill. If I just take an offhand snap shot, it seems to always end up with a deer DRT. 

 
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Always, Always, Always! check real world data to a ballistics calculator. Before you ever squeeze the trigger on game at any distance shoot that distance or more and confirm your dope for that rifle and that ammo in those conditions. I'm not really chastising you, but yes, I'm chastising you! LOL! We'd cut your shirt tails off for that!
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Have you ever confirmed that its on at 100 prior to taking this shot?

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I would suggest sighting in farther out than 25 yards.  Problem with 25 yards and you might shoot a 5 shot group that is 1/2 inch in size and think hey, my gun is awesome.  But that small error of 1/2 inch by the time you get to 100 yards is much bigger.

You just don't see the possible errors at 25 yards.  Your gun may have a stock pushing on the barrel issue, a heat up issue, velocity issues, or any other number of issues and you would have no idea because you are only shooting at 25 yards. 

I test my guns out to as far as I plan on shooting game at.  If I decide I am comfortable shooting at a deer at 500 yards.  I get dope every 50 yards from 50 to 500 and test each distance with live ammo to make sure things are working right.  That way I know when I pull the trigger that if I do my part the bullet is going to go where my cross hairs were when the trigger broke. 
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There aren't ranges here that go out past 100 yards, except some new one they put in up in Talladega. It goes out to 600 Yards I think. I guess I need to take a trip up there. I didn't feel like the FOP range here was even 100 yards when I went out there. That was before I got my range finder. I may call them and see if they are open and run up there. 

I shot 2 deer with this gun when it had the burris scope on it. Same ammo except 150 grain. One was at 70 yards and the other at 150 or more. Both DRT. I shot one at 30 or 35 already this year, same result, DRT. 

We have a crappy range at my hunting club. I can shoot out there between 11 and 1. Its on a powerline. So I would be shooting downhill. 

You guys are way more advanced than I am. I guess I need to get me a chrony and see what the ammo is doing at yardage too. Be my luck I would shoot the chrony. Big Grin
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Originally posted by Lockjaw Lockjaw wrote:

Be my luck I would shoot the chrony. Big Grin


Haha. I saw, well mostly heard that happen at the range one day.  I heard a boom and then mother bleepaty bleep bleep bleep.  Look over and some dude had shot his good.  A bit later, he came over and asked if he could shoot through mine.  I was like "uhh, no way dude"  lol


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I just seem to have this sort of luck. I swear I can snap shoot something like you wouldn't believe, but ask me to sit there and take a slow deliberate shot, and it never seems to work out. 

It may just not like this ammo. Who knows?? Although I have never had a gun shoot hornady ammo poorly.

This is what I usually see happen with Remington Core Lokt ammo. I busted deer with it, and they run away and hide. 
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