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    Posted: December/31/2018 at 18:04
In skiing (and no doubt other outdoor activities) sometimes you experience flat light.  In flat light, you cannot make out features in the snow--in fact, sometimes you cannot see the actual surface.

But when you go near trees, then you CAN make out features--tracks etc.

Does anyone know FOR SURE why this is?  What are the optics of this situation?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scrumbag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/01/2019 at 18:49
I always found changing goggles / sunglasses for less tint helped. And more yellowy rather than brown shades but that could just be personal preference
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peddler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/01/2019 at 18:54
Originally posted by Scrumbag Scrumbag wrote:

I always found changing goggles / sunglasses for less tint helped. And more yellowy rather than brown shades but that could just be personal preference


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/01/2019 at 21:33
This is mostly a perception issue.  In flat light conditions, your brain does not get enough visual cues to perceive depth so everything gets weird.  Basically, there is not enough contrast in the scene you are looking at.

Amber and similar goggle help.

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...my brain does not get enough clues....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/02/2019 at 09:33
Snow skiing is one activity I’ve never done but always wanted to do.

I have experienced exteme flat light conditions several times while hunting in heavy snow in the mountains and also in very sandy desert areas during mid-day sunlight. I’ve always found that simply wearing a good pair of polarized sunglasses works well enough to gain enough contrast to be able to discern my surroundings, but perhaps snow skiing presents extra demands I’ve never experienced before.
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Flat light when moving quickly confuses the brain a little more, but it is the same phenomenon.

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Snow skiing, depending on the light I'll change up my goggle lenses to help see the terrain. Persimmon seems to work best for me on flat/low light days.

If snowing I'll switch to yellow, medium to bright days v28's, bright sunny days brown.
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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Snow skiing, depending on the light I'll change up my goggle lenses to help see the terrain. Persimmon seems to work best for me on flat/low light days.

If snowing I'll switch to yellow, medium to bright days v28's, bright sunny days brown.


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Last time I skied in flat light I fell flat on my ar$eWink
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