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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Peddler, remember you promised to keep me posted on that Iphone adaptor, right ? Big Smile

They are available now. I just took a pic in my backyard. PM me your e-mail and I'll send the pic. I basically have no computer skills and I don't know how to post pics here.

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Now that you are part of our family Peddler,how 'bout a SWFA group buy on the Kowa TSN 880  spotter [:}
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OK realistically TSN 66mm Wink
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

OK realistically TSN 66mm Wink


stickbow, are you trying to get me in trouble ? Where is Benton.Pa.? My territory is all of upstate NY and a small part of northern and western Pa.

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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:





Now that you are part of our family Peddler,how 'bout a SWFA group buy on the Kowa TSN 880  spotter [:}



Where is this group buy you speak of?
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Hate to rain on a good deal, but I think a group buy with Peddler would get him in trouble with forum rules.
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Originally posted by sniperdog sniperdog wrote:

I need some advice on what type of spotting scope to buy.  Specifically, I have a range that I just completed that reaches to 500 yards and need a spotting scope that will let me see the bullet impact points at that range.  I would like to be able to see .223 holes in addition to .308, .50, etc.  I don't need something that is "rugged"  as I won't be lugging the scope around.
Thanks!

Shoot-N-C targets will help. Allot.
With mirage, forget seeing .223 or .308 holes at 600 yards with anything.

If I had a private range, I'd sink the money into a CCD camera and monitor, because atmospheric conditions play a HUGE part in what you can see.


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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Hate to rain on a good deal, but I think a group buy with Peddler would get him in trouble with forum rules.


Thanks BeltFed, you are correct.

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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Peddler, remember you promised to keep me posted on that Iphone adaptor, right ? Big Smile

They are available now. I just took a pic in my backyard. PM me your e-mail and I'll send the pic. I basically have no computer skills and I don't know how to post pics here.

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If you like, email me you pic and I'll post it for you.
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Will these work with "other" spotter eye pieces?

They should, unless something was done to prevent interface with any but one.
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I actually stumbled upon a video of it on youtube.  


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Peddler, when will these be available.

I see SWFA has a meopta adapter listed, but I'm sure you'd rather I buy one that says "Kowa."


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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Peddler, when will these be available.

I see SWFA has a meopta adapter listed, but I'm sure you'd rather I buy one that says "Kowa."


Thanks.


They are available now.

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If money is no object 88mm Kowa is the best spotter I have seen yet (aside from some larger non-sealed models).

For the money, Zen ED2 is probably your best bet.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If money is no object 88mm Kowa is the best spotter I have seen yet (aside from some larger non-sealed models).

For the money, Zen ED2 is probably your best bet.

Ilya


koshkin, you are a man with good taste.

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Thanks!
When talking about a  camera/monitor, are you referring to having a camera mounted near the target monitoring the bullet holes and sending an image back to a laptop or whatever where I am shooting from instead of using a spotting scope? 
If so, that is an interesting alternative.  Problem is that there are tresspassers.  I found a metal plate, painted white,  two days ago that is about 32"x32" and an eight inch thick that someone had placed on my range and was shooting .22's  at from a distance of about 30 yards.  Strange part is that they had to lug this steel plate in through the adjacent woods to put it on my range, and it is somewhat heavy.  Why not just sit it up against a tree in the woods and shoot it there?  I am going to put a .50 hole in it and write a little note on it about tresspassing.  Their .22 didn't even dent this metal so god knows where their ricochetts were going.
 
As f/u to the OP, I am still shopping for spotting scopes.  I have been looking at used 77 televids but may start looking at some of the other scopes you guys mentioned.
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OK, I decided to go top end but my brain is full of questions:
Is there more than one type of Kowa 883?  (is there an HD vs Non HD?)  Is the 883 better than the top of the line Swaro or Leica for my use (see below)?
How much difference in image quality is there between the Swaro HD vs Non HD - this scope will be used at a shooting range exclusively, so I can adjust whether the target is on a white paper background, red paper, etc.
Is the Razor as good as the three makes above or is it slightly "worse" but a great price for the quality?
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Originally posted by sniperdog sniperdog wrote:

OK, I decided to go top end but my brain is full of questions:
Is there more than one type of Kowa 883?  (is there an HD vs Non HD?)  Is the 883 better than the top of the line Swaro or Leica for my use (see below)?
How much difference in image quality is there between the Swaro HD vs Non HD - this scope will be used at a shooting range exclusively, so I can adjust whether the target is on a white paper background, red paper, etc.
Is the Razor as good as the three makes above or is it slightly "worse" but a great price for the quality?
 Checking SWFA's site, I don't think there is a difference in the Kowa 880 series other than maybe eyepieces. I think they are all top of the line.
As far as which is better, Kowa, Leica, Swaro, or Zeiss I couldn't say. They are all alpha glass and I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. There might be a slight difference to your eyes between them, but I think any of them will accomplish what you want. If they don't, then your probably out of luck finding a spotting scope to do what you want, since they are top of the line.
As for the Razor, from what I have heard, it is as close as you can get to alpha glass without paying for it. I hope to look through one in the next couple of weeks, but I can oly compare it to a Pentax PF80.
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If you're going top shelf, the Kowa 883 (angled) or 884 (straight) are the best on the planet.  Dont waste your time with anything else.  They're also cheaper than the other alphas, which is icing on the cake.  As beltfed says, the Razor is pretty close and 1/2 the money.  
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As an update to my original post, I ended up buying the Kowa 883.  I like it a lot.  I can easily see 7.62 holes at 500 yards assuming no miraging, using simple white paper.  (I had it out yesterday - there was snow on the ground, hazy sun.).
Ill report back on .223 hole when I take that out, which should be soon, weather dependent.
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Originally posted by sniperdog sniperdog wrote:

As an update to my original post, I ended up buying the Kowa 883.  I like it a lot.  I can easily see 7.62 holes at 500 yards assuming no miraging, using simple white paper.  (I had it out yesterday - there was snow on the ground, hazy sun.).
Ill report back on .223 hole when I take that out, which should be soon, weather dependent.


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I think you are right.
The 223 holes were surprisingly easy to see at 500 yards yesterday, and it was cloudy out.
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