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    Posted: January/25/2019 at 09:08
Looking at Swarovski z6 1.7x10 x42 Or Zeiss victory 1.5x6 x42 ( illuminated) on samplelist. Any recommendations, pros or cons? Putting it on a 375 h&h .
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I'm no expert, and have no experience with either of those exact models so take it for what it's worth.
I have owned Zeiss and Swarovski scopes and my general impression is that Swarovski models are more consistently good. I had a Zeiss Conquest hd5 for a while that I kind of hated.

All that said, if I was scoping a .375 H&H I would go with the Zeiss out of your two choices. I'm not really a high magnification guy especially for .375 which I assume is not necessarily a long range sniper rifle, and the illumination is a major plus if you're in the woods, or poor light.

Victory is Zeiss top-of-the-line as well, wheress th Z6 is close to top of the line for Swarovski.
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I have Swarovski Z6i 1-6 that sits on a Champlin .378 Weatherby Magnum, a Zeiss Victory Diavari 2.5-10 that sits on a Voere Titan II 30-06, a Zeiss Conquest 4x that sits on a Ruger #1 .458 Lott and a Zeiss Hensoldt 6-24x72 that sits on a custom .338 Lapua Magnum. 
All these scopes perform with an "outstanding" rating.  Every one of these rifles' recoil would not be considered "meek" and I have put quite few rounds downrange with all of them with no ill effects.  
Looking at the Zeiss Victory line vs the Swarovski Z6 line, I believe you are looking at a tossup.  Glass is very nearly the same (somewhat different coatings... but that is often true even within the same manufacturer), mechanicals are very good to excellent, dependability is superior.  

But, in my world, illumination always wins... I just like to have it there.  That being said... with either Swarovski or Zeiss (I've never had an HD5, looked through a couple and they looked OK, but understand they had a period of quality inconsistency) I've never encountered a situation where in legal hunting hours I would not be able to take a shot because I did not have illumination.  Can't say I've hunted in EVERY situation imaginable, but I generally hunt from heavy cover into heavy cover (dense) and most of my shots have come right at legal hours beginning or within minutes of legal hours ending...Never had an issue.  With the Swaro, I sometimes just don't turn the illumination on.  The Diavari is not illuminated, but the deal on it was so great (samplelist), I could not pass it up... 
No matter how you go, it is a win.  

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I have the same Zeiss scope with #60 reticle, is it the Victory HT you're looking at? If so, great little scope and reticle, my only dislike is the illumination adjustment knob, it just spins and spins, no stops or clicks, makes fine tuning a breeze.  Wink
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Yes, Zeiss Victory HT, 1.5x6x42 illuminated #60 reticle
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I own both of those scopes, except my Z6 is the Z6i (illuminated) version.

Both scopes are of course outstanding, and either one would be a good choice for a .375. I think I would get the Zeiss 1.5-6X42 because it's illuminated, and because I think their "LotuTec" hydrophobic lens coating works well and is a useful feature on a hunting rifle. I agree with Mike on the illumination control knob; I think Zeiss could have done a much better job designing it. I wish it had defined tactile settings and was lower profile, but not really a big deal. Other than that minor gripe, I have no complaints about the scope.

The Z6 has less "tunnel vision," which means it has virtually none, and the Zeiss has only very slight tunneling. Optically, flip a coin. 

For me, price would be a major determining factor of which one I selected between those two.

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Sample list, zeiss 1599, Swarovski 1299. Good deals on both I think
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For me, illumination and LotuTec coatings is worth the extra $300, but it's close and if the price difference was even slightly more, I'd go with the Z6.
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Thanks, clear as mud.! Great info, can’t go wrong ( I think) .
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Thanks, great info, have to decide if the illum is worth a little more to me. Appreciate the help
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A friend of mine has a mounted lion in his den that he shot in self defense at night in camp on safari (they were not hunting lion, it was however hunting them). The .375H&H is a dangerous game caliber and if you will truly use it to hunt where there is dangerous game the illumination can be important.

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

.... a Zeiss Conquest 4x that sits on a Ruger #1 .458 Lott ...

You running extended rings on this one?  Just picked up a Ruger #1 in 375 H&H and looking at moving my Swaro Z6 1.7-10x that I picked up from Supertool.
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I'd take the illuminated for choice...
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I did pick the illuminated Zeiss, should be at my house tomorrow
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Originally posted by Av8or Av8or wrote:

I did pick the illuminated Zeiss, should be at my house tomorrow

Great, enjoy it!
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