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koshkin
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I would not read a whole lot into a misalignment of the sights and scope. Remember, that the iron sights have to be aligned to each other. As long as both of them are offset from the scope reticle by the same amount, you are good to go. Also, many of the scope mounts do not place the scope exactly over the bore. I have seen quite a few that were a touch left or a touch right. As far as the engagement range goes, I am not the greatest shot in the world (to put it mildly), but with a little practice you can take 4x out to 500 yards with reasonable ease. ILya ILya
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Just wanted to post a follow up!
I had sent my PTR-91 off to PTR for a scope rail, and decided for now the new SWFA 1-4x would be a perfect match for this. here it is mounted. I think it will make a great 0-400 yard gun. I am taking it out monday to ring some steel with it, and get the sight zeroed |
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SEMO Shooter
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Mine arrived today. Holding it by hand and looking out my office window the glass looked clear at all magnifications. The magnification ring turned smoothly. The turret clicks felt solid. Battery install was easy. Illumination looked good. The reticle is much different than any I scopes I have. I'm impressed so far, especially considering most of my scopes are quite a bit more expensive. Seems like a very nice scope for the price. I'll post thoughts after I get it mounted and make my first range trip.
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Egg-cellent!
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Cold Trigger Finger
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Bulletslap ; the Ruger Compacts are every bit as accurate as any of their hunting weight M77 Mk2 or Hawkeye rifles ime. My wife's 308 stainless will print 1/2 moa very consistently after I lightened the trigger to around 50 oz. I haven't bedded it yet. Haven't felt the need to but bedding and floating the barrel might shrink groups even more. With such a light rifle, a good trigger is essential. What caliber is yours? How is everyone liking the eye relief on these 1-4s . I'm getting the parts together for a 400 Whelan build and this scope would be ideal as.long as it has enough eye relief. ? Thanks. Glen. |
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I am certain my little Compact in .260 Remington is capable of tighter groups than I can get out of it
I have bedded the action and floated the barrel, but have the stock trigger. I can get sub-moa 10 shot groups out of my heavy barreled Remington VLS .260, but out of the little Ruger the groups are 2-3x larger. Truthfully under 7 inches out to 300 yards is good enough for what I use it for.
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Cold Trigger Finger
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Ok. . The Compact in 260 is the rifle I should have gotten 6 years ago. Instead I got a M700 VTR in 223. What a jamamatic that was. Now Ruger isn't making the Compact in 260. And they haven't started making the Compact or Scout in 6.5 Creedmoor yet.
Anyone with any comments on the eye relief on the new 1-4 ? |
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bulletslap
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Eye relief is listed at 5-3 inches; but for me it is closer to 4-2 or so; tough to measure exactly without assistance.
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Cold Trigger Finger
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Ok. Thank you. That is not enough for a 4 k + ft lb rifle.
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cheaptrick
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You sure it's only 2"?
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bulletslap
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When set at 4x it is close to 2 inches, as near as I can measure it.
I wear eyeglasses, does that change eye relief ? So I measure from the eyepiece to my corrective lens, and then I measure from the correct lens to my eye ?
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Cold Trigger Finger
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Bumms me out. This scope is a serious upgradefrom the 1-4x20 Leupold Vx ll that I used for over a decade on 338s 416s and my 458 . But it had 4" of eye relief. Reticle kinda sucked tho and it wasn't tough enough. I was hoping this 1-4 would replace the Leu.
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cheaptrick
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Well, my old SS 1-4x was pretty near a fixed 4" of eye relief, regardless of power setting. Your stating that your scope is more of a variable, which sounds kinda wonky.
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supertool73
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The specs say 5 to 3.1
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Yes I am saying the eye relief decreases as the power is increased, for me with my scope.
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bulletslap
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As I increase the power of the scope, if I do not move my eye closer to the eyepiece the image shrinks, I think this is called "Vingeting" (sp) ?
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I got it.
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Cold Trigger Finger
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If the HD 1-4 had a similar center dot reticle I'de be pulley to pull the trigger on one. That's what I liked so much about this new one. The reticle. Oh well. Thanks for the heads upon the constant eye relief of the HD. |
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I'm trying to understand the practical significance of this variable eye relief I don't have enough experience with different optics to understand how it would impact my use of this scope.
Does this mean that I would simply set the position of the scope for use at 4x and then it will work well throughout magnification range(with extra forgiveness at 1x), or would I actually need to change my position in relation to the scope in order to use 1x vs 4x? For someone who "don't know what I don't know", can anybody explain to me how this would impact my use of this scope as a general purpose AR optic. Looking to try out a low power variable in place of a red dot, as I have astigmatism and live in the country.
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supertool73
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You would probably need to change your position to use it from high to low mag.
On a .223 it is not hugely critical, you will adapt quickly. On a hard kicker it may not be such a good thing. |
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