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Daddy like
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Unfortunately, the body parts you WANT to sell, no one wants...
 
yeah I new you shouldn't have looked that nigh in alabama. I told you it would scare you for life, I mean who would have thought stripper midgets could be so fast in a hotel halway running with a pelican 1750 rifle case and my skivies on there heads. I know the SS3-9 took all the "little people" dished out and came thru with flying colors. See I also told you the viagra was not needed and you didn't belive me and took it anyways. Good way to screw up a good cont'a b-fast there buddy... the hot box's will never be the same.
 
 
back on track, I do have a B-day comming up !!!
 
 
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Originally posted by stork23raz stork23raz wrote:

Daddy like
Why yes,yes I do!!!
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OOoooo, somebody's in a mood todaySmile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jon A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/04/2011 at 15:31
Here are some thoughts on the reticle as it seems to have generated quite a few questions.  Keep in mind the below is simply my opinion, reticle preferences are highly personal.  No reticle in the world will be liked by everybody, nearly everybody has some idea of something they’d like to change on any given reticle.  

For me the primary question is will the reticle get the job done?  That can’t be answered without what job and under what conditions?  Those may be different for different users.  A scope like this should have a reticle that answers “yes” for a large range of jobs and conditions.  It should be fast to pick up on low powers, easy to use for holdoffs medium or high powers and not cover the target too much at long range.

I feel the reticle does well at covering those bases.  It’s really a pleasure to use, simple, clean and uncluttered, easy to see on all powers yet still pretty thin on high power.  The thicknesses seem to be a good compromise for low power visibility, all around usability and long range precision.  If you’ve ever used a mildot you should transition over to this easily with no training required.  Of course that can be said for quite a few reticles which is where personal preference comes in.  

I like hash reticles as much as the next guy and generally prefer them to dot reticles for most of the time.  For bench-type shooting on paper with the scope cranked all the way up they’re hard to beat.  But when I’m not doing that, I have noticed some advantages to dot type reticles over the years, at least to my eye.

Generally they’re easier to see and use on lower powers for a given line thickness.  To make lines as visible on low powers they need to be thick enough they may look excessively thick on higher powers.

My brain sort of processes the difference between a full mil and a half mil a little more automatically with dots instead of having to identify the correct hash.  If I’m doing hold offs on medium power at medium ranges and time is an issue the dots just seem a bit faster to me.

Of course the biggest disadvantage to most of them is that they cover more of the target than you’d like at long range.  Hollowing them out solves that problem.

The dot in the center allows you to still use them as a precise aiming point.  It also gives you a direct reticle measurement of 0.1 mils for ranging.  The diamonds are 0.2 mils wide, the hash marks on the ends are .2 mils apart.  So you can very easily measure anything directly to the 0.1 mil with the in-betweens being 0.05 mil.  It’s a nice, simple way to do it without making a portion of the reticle look like a pincushion.

The diamonds work just like dots, after a couple minutes you won’t even notice their shape anymore.  The biggest difference between them and dots (or circles that are hollow) is that they are easier to see on low power because they can be “taller” without taking up more space on the reticle with a larger diameter (staying 0.2 mils wide).  They also seem to help a little to my eye at least with vertical and horizontal alignment when holding both elevation and windage.

On the bottom post—I don’t miss it.  It’s very natural and fast to use, just like an upside down 4a.  Very familiar for users of the MP-8, P4, P4f, etc.  The problem with a bottom post is with 5 mils of space on three sides and 10 on the bottom, the “duplex” you get at low power has a lopsided opening.  I’d rather do without than have it lopsided.   It got added back to the MP-8 for the IOR 3-18 and I always felt it was unnecessary.  Just my opinion.

Those are my thoughts.  Of course everybody isn’t going to like it (or any other reticle), but as I said the important thing is if it will get the job done.  For pretty much any use I can think of, this one will.

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Well thought out ,precise & simple presentation....Thanks Jon Excellent
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Jon, as you well know, I ammo big fan of 20x optics, the eye box usually sucks. You say eye relief at 20x is a good 4 inches, but how precise must position be for good sight picture?

It’s pretty flexible—as good or better than any other ~20X I have on hand or can remember using.  Though I haven’t tried a Hensoldt.  Certainly not problematic in any way. 
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

YOu too huh Helo!

Oh yes.  I want one as soon as possible.  I have ideas and dreams for it already.
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Thanks for the thoughts on the reticle JonA.  I too prefer the hashes and that was one thing that instantly made me like that reticle design.
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Okay ... my CR6724 needs one of these ... when do we pre-order.  SWFA hit the nail on the head again.
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One thing I forgot to mention for those worried about use up close:

There's not a hint of tunneling at all.  The FOV at 5X is 20ft @ 100 yds which is as big or even bigger than some scopes advertised at 4X and 4.5X on the low end.
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I like the sound of that!
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Specs:
Tube Construction: One piece
Tube Diameter: 30mm
Actual Magnification: 5x – 20x
Objective Lens Diameter: 50mm
Reticle: Illuminated First Focal Plane Mil-Quad
Eye Piece Focusing System: Adjustable/Locking
Eyepiece Focus Range: ± 1.0 Diopter
Eye Relief: 4”
Parallax Focus Adjustment: Side Focus
Parallax Setting: 35 yards – Infinity
Windage/Elevation Adjustment Value: .1 MRAD
Total Elevation Adjustment Range: 30 MRAD
Field of View: 19.4–4.82 feet @ 100 yards
Length: 14.65”
Weight: 31.39 oz
Battery: CR2032


Edited by Brady - May/12/2011 at 17:07
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you left off a very important spec,  $$$
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Price will be released tomorrow
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Originally posted by Brady Brady wrote:

Specs:
Tube Construction: One piece
Tube Diameter: 30mm
Actual Magnification: 5x – 20x
Objective Lens Diameter: 50mm
Reticle: Illuminated First Focal Plane Mil-Quad
Eye Piece Focusing System: Adjustable/Locking
Eyepiece Focus Range: ± 1.0 Diopter
Eye Relief: 4”
Parallax Focus Adjustment: Side Focus
Parallax Setting: 35 yards – Infinity
Windage/Elevation Adjustment Value: .1 MRAD
Total Elevation Adjustment Range: 30 MRAD
Field of View: 19.4–4.82 feet @ 100 yards
Length: 14.65”
Weight: 31.39 oz
Battery: CR2032



Nice looking lady, Nice specs...

not a 36-24-36 but she's got curves in all the right places.

She's clean,  She only has diamonds that are useful, She's tight where she needs to be, She firm where you want her to be, She'll take you into the dark and light it up for you, She'll take you a long way out and won't leave you hanging there, she will deliver 10 times out of 10 and do it again. 

NICE LOOKING TUBE YOU GOT THERE and you'll say SWFA SS 5-20x50HD baby...




Edited by Brady - May/12/2011 at 17:03
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Shipping date Please Yippee

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote helo18 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2011 at 20:53
Don't care about shipping date or price really.  I just want my name on the list first thing.  They can charge me for it today and send it whenever it is ready to ship.

Although knowing how many loads of oil I will have to haul to pay for it would be a good thing.
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