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    Posted: August/04/2009 at 18:55

Have any of you guys ever used any 1" Limbsaver Recoil Pads for your rifle?

Have any of you ever installed a mercury tube to reduce recoil?
 
If so How well have they worked to reduce recoil?
 
I just sent my Bar 7mm mag. stock to the Limbsaver folks in WA. For the purchse of the pad plus 50.00 in labor they trim a 1/4 off of my stock and install the trimmed Limbsaver Recoil pad.
Also I spoke to a Tech. Gun Guy at Brownells and he said the Mercury tube will work also reduce recoil IF ONLY you have it securely up against the recoil pad when installed so it cannot move at ALL. If it moves it will nort work for the shooter..
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Got one in my 870. 2 3/4 Brenneke mags are no problem.   That gun has a pad and a load up side saddle for some extra control.  Compare that to my skinny Ithica with none of the above which makes most stuff uncomforatable.   
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Mercury tubes I can't speak to, but limbsavers are on every rifle stock I own not really for the recoil aspect but the increased LOP.  Yes, I have been called a knuckle dragger.  LOL
   
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I installed 2 mechanical recoil suppressors http://www.edwardsrecoilreducer.com/index.htm in my stock for my 338 RUM.  It has a 26" #5 contour barrel so the extra weight in the stock helps with balance and recoil.  Here are some pics of the installation
 
I put release agent on the inside of the stock and then bedded them in solid with Acraglas.  They are removable
 
With the weight of the gun, an integral muzzle brake/port and the 2 suppressors the 338RUM kicks like my lightweight 30-06
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i put a limbsaver on my .300wsm and i would wager a lot of money that it made a 20% difference in felt recoil. they really work.
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I like the limbsaver stuff, it helps.  I don't have anything with mercury in it....except a catfish I caught in the James River.
 
The best thing I have found for recoil is: a muzzle break and a REALLY GOOD set of ear muffs.
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I met a rather petite little lady at the gun club a couple weeks ago who was shooting a nice little Benelli. She had been having trouble dealing with the recoil after a couple rounds of trap. Her husband told me that he installed a mercury recoil reducer in the magazine tube, and they both agreed that it made a big difference in her comfort, (and scores).

 Also-Limbsavers are very popular on Old Gobbler; a turkey-hunting forum I visit occasionally. These guys shoot hard kickers- 3-1/2 inch 12 and 10-gauges with 2-1/4 ounces of shot and more. They seem to work well, judging by the popularity.
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Thanks!
 
Sakomato is this recoil supressor one of the better ones made?
 I do not want to put a muzzle brake on any of my rifles, I think it may make me flinch worse. ( on the larger calibers anyway. I kinda enjoy tinkering and trying different things on these rifles though..
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 YMMV, but I once owned a hunting rifle with a muzzle brake.
 
Never again.
 
My remaining hearing ability is too precious.
 
 If I ever again need a muzzle brake to tame a rifle's recoil to a manageable level, I'm simply not going to be playing with that firearm.
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Ok, what is YMMV Ronk? Then I will try again..Smile
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YMMV = Your Mileage Might Vary
 
I really can't say one style is better than the other.  I heard all kinds of horror stories about sloshing sounds with the mercury and clicking sounds from the mechanical kind.  I noticed no clicking with the mechanical thingies cause when that 338RUM goes off it is an event and it would be hard to notice anything else.
 
I think either would be fine.
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How much do the mercury reducers weigh? I could see some weight in the stock a plus on a heavy barreled rifle.

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I do not blame you Ron!
 
I think I will try the mechanical one  Sako, Im not sure I like the idea of mercury being in the rifle, especially since the rifles more than likely will be passed down.
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3-tens I do not know how much they weigh, but I just read this article from Chuck Hawks and he says they do not work , just add weight. Here it is
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I had fitted a mechanical recoil suppressor to my 308 Win. Cannot say it has turned it into a 22 rimfire. The rifle still kicks off the sight picture. The kick feels a bit more like an AR though, that is less "sharp". The added weight did balance the rifle better.
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I'm a big limbsaver fan ( haven't tried the mercury recoil reducer) .. I have limbsavers on a 300 RUM, 2 45/70's, a 338 , 300 wby , and several 12ga set ups.. Really noticebale difference over the traditional hard rubber stock pads allot of guns are made with. For sure worth the investment.

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  Here's something I often wondered.  Does a recoil pad get hard over a looooong period of time?  I've seen some of the old vented ones actually have pieces missing.  What about soild ones,say like a Pachmeyer.
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Well, it is just rubber. Depends on the care taken. Keep out of direct sunlight, do not store it standing on the rubber etc. My dad had a vented recoil pad that became compressed from standing like that in the safe. It did take 40 years of standing though!!!
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  The Pachmayr Presentation Model on my Brown Precision is at least 30yrs old and just doesn't seem to have the compression it once had.  It's been used ALOT.
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The Browning Bar I sent off to have the limbsaver installed on is 39 years old. I gave the serial # to Browning to find out for sure. So my point is yes the rubber on this ol pad is like a rock...The bar since its an Auto should not have that bad of recoil according to what I hear from other Bar owners. Or perhaps Im just overly sensitive since I have a plate in the back of my head/screwed up neck to boot. Anyway its all just something to do isn't it?Poker I like that emoticonSmile 
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  THANKS,Julio.  Sounds logical in that,as 8 says,it's just rubber.
 
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use mercury ones alot when they were first introduced in trap guns. the theory was that in addition to adding wt. to reduce recoil, recoil energy was used up shearing the mercury by moving it back and forth. they reduce the recoil by whatever they add to the gun wt. in the recoil equation. any dense heavy metal will work. When placed forward in trap guns they change the pivot and cause less of bite in the cheek. If your shooting an auto or pump and limited to one shot as in trap, just make some dummy reloads and load them ahead of the live round.
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would like to add that if you add a choate mag. extension and use 1 1/4 oz loads in the extension , the leverage is really increased.
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Limbsaver on a 7mag Browning A-bolt SS--it greatly reduced felt recoil to me--30 % or so.  I still won't say the 7mag is a joy to shoot, but it is much more tolerable.  I also agree with those that say the muzzle break is good for reducing recoil but awful for the ears (and anyone in close proximity to the shot!).  I have a Browning a bolt in 243 that I got for a great deal with the boss  recoil reducing version (explain that on a 243).  The manner in which the gas is vented seems to explode in your ears, making it much more noisy than the 7mag.   Also, I have a mercury break in a Benelli Nova.  There is some perceived change in recoil, especially in 3.5 turkey loads.  But again, it may be just perceived--plus, that shotgun is tasked primarily with turkeys and sports a comp n choke tube that ports.  On another post, we discussed the difference in sound for a shotgun compared to the braked rifle. 
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I have used a Kick-eeze pad on a couple of hard kickers and they really work, but they don't last forever. Both have chips and chunks that have come off. Now I have three rifles with the Limbsaver and they are definitely better than stock type pads, but to me they don't quite match the kick-eeze. Muzzle brakes definitely work really well if you wear muffs to hunt and if you shoot at a range it will piss off everyone around you! A 338-378 Wby kicks like a 270 winchester with the factory brake to me.
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