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    Posted: February/14/2008 at 23:17
ok folks as we all know its income tax return time yippie ..
 
now ive got a Savage 243  and  im gonna try to start hunting yotes and  hogs. 
 
well i got my eye on the bushy  3200 elite  fire fly  but im afraid to spend this much money. because i dont get to go out all the time  and hunt or shoot . an scared that id have just  about 200 bucks setting there.  ive seen couple of other scopes  bit lower  price. that i might be intrsted in  like the trophy series and the  banner series. most ive ever spent on a scope was like 110 an it was the bsa sweet 17 scope an it sets on my 17 and is a good scope for  what i use it for. now   as much as i go out which isnt much   im thinkin   200 might be  a bit much. any suggestons  at all whould be great  
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the rifle i got is savage 110 243 an its got that crappy  simmons scope on it i dont like it  very much at all. sorry forgot to add this 
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$200 is not much for a new scope but you can buy a decent used fixed 6 or 8x on e-b-a-y from the 1960-70s made by one of the (then) top names like Weaver, Lyman or Bausch & Lomb. They will be superior to the low end Russian and Chinese junk available in your price range. If you plan to hunt in the rainforest they are not as waterproof as newer scopes but optically they work just fine. Hunted with everything from a Weaver 330 to the latest Schmidt & Benders and would not hesitate to go afield with a late K series Weaver, Lyman All Weather or BalVar.
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Check out Sightron SII 1.5-6x42 I got mine for $199.99
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You will need good rings and base the ones that came with your rifle will be junk Leupold std. will be good , My son has a savage 110 243 and it shoots .50 inch groups all day . I did a trigger job good mounts and rings and put a IOR scope on it 6x.  
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SWFA is still showing Nikon Monarch 4X40 for $99.95 and 2-7X32 for $179.95!  These would be excellent!
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Originally posted by samspade samspade wrote:

$200 is not much for a new scope but you can buy a decent used fixed 6 or 8x on e-b-a-y from the 1960-70s made by one of the (then) top names like Weaver, Lyman or Bausch & Lomb. They will be superior to the low end Russian and Chinese junk available in your price range. If you plan to hunt in the rainforest they are not as waterproof as newer scopes but optically they work just fine. Hunted with everything from a Weaver 330 to the latest Schmidt & Benders and would not hesitate to go afield with a late K series Weaver, Lyman All Weather or BalVar.
 
this is terrible advice! why in the hell would you want to use a fixed power scope especially a 6x or an 8x if you are hunting coyotes?? coyotes are sneaky creatures, they can sneak up on you easily especially if you hunt alone, i wouldnt recommend a fixed powered scope for coyote hunting at all, shooting a coyote at 8 yds on 8x would suck stick to something like the 1.5x6 or a 2.5x10 or a 3x9 4x14 is getting into the questionable range, but will probably work i wouldnt go for anything higher than a 4x on the low end though.
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i hunt in west texas  abilene area   theres tree lines fields   brush etc...  anyone use the     bushy trophy series or the  dusk till dawn?
and  yes i agree  there will have to be a new base an rings  the ones on it are junk. right along with that scope    thats factory on it.    
 
i was lookin at the pricing on the elite 3200 and  figured it up on the site here    its like 229 after shipping and taxes are added.  im just afraid if i do buy it and not hunt is much as i do. that i will feel i have wasted   that  much money 
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it would be a waste if you spent $1500 and never used it, but for $200 just getting out there a couple of times and having success with out any malfunctions is worth it!
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when i first strated out  lookin  back before christmas i had found this scope.
then i  strated looking more  all over the net  and in stores here localy. and  the local academy had the Elite 3200 3x9x50   firefly for like 249. well i looked through it and loved it an found the  3x9x40 here with the flashlight. was gonna buy it then   i had to use the money for something major that happned to the pick up. so ive got my taxes back and  starting to look again  
 
ive also looked through  the bushnell banner   series  scopes one for like 130  it didnt seem bad  at all.   we got our selfs osme land here an spotlight for them yotes  i dont know if i really want a lighted retcle or not    or should i get one.   i think im driving my self batty tryin to figure out what to do lol 
 
i know i dont want to spend  no 500 or 1500  cause i dont use it that much  and i couldnt afford it any how. i also realize ill need better rings and mounts  for the rifle cause the ones that are factory are junk. so there is more money hmm  on the scope thing though   not sure what to do  
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i have a trophy on my 22-250, and its a pretty nice scope for $100 mine is only a 3x9 but i think for coyotes its good enough quality to work for that. the banner or the legend series are nice too and cheaper than the 3200
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ive shot a 30-06 with the  trophy on it very nice  looked through some in the stores as well. they seem to be real clear  i noticed the lower priced elite without the firefly  wasnt badly priced eaither. still a hard decision to make lol   
 
 
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well if you want to buy a scope that will last you a long time buy the non fire fly 3200 i have a 4200 elite and its a very nice scope, the 3200 is a nice scope as well.
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+1 on the Trophy - have use one for a few years now, very reasonable cost & clear optics.  Mine is a 1.75x5
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The old saying you get what you pay for is true
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Agree generally but the Trophy seems to be a very good bargain scope from Bushnell
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i do as well! especially since he seems apprensive about spending a ton.
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The decision to spend your hard earned money is never easy, but when you do decide get the best you can for your money.You will be getting a quality product that will serve you well and make you a happy hunter with the confidence of having good equipment. It easy for me to tell you GO FOR IT...I Have, and yes I have gotten the buyer remorse feeling but it too will pass. Your getting your moneys worth.....
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well i bought the bushnell trophy  3x9x40 its got circle x reticle. i walekd out the door with it for 114 after tax
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and how do you feel? is it what you wanted?
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Most folks I know who actually seriously hunt Yotes use a shotgun and a rifle, usually two guys. I agree a nice variable would be good but having shot lots of varmints from 25 to 500 yards, I find a good fixed power scope works just fine. One less thing to go wrong. One wonders how the legends of the 30s, 40s & 50s ever were able to kill anything with their 270 & 30-06 popguns topped with 2.5x, 4x and 6x scopes? And no there wasn't more game then. Perhaps more "hunting" and less technology?

As for mounts and rings, the best bang for the buck is still the all steel Weavers. Not sexy but cheap and strong. Good enough for Finn's 375 H&H, good enough for me.
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most folks who hunt coyotes seriously dont use a shot gun, because then they gotta sew up a whole bunch of holes instead of just two, if i hunted coyotes alone i would carry a shot gun and a rifle, like les johnson does. if i hunt in a group of a couple of guys i guess i wouldnt worry so much, guys with the higher power scopes can take the dog that have been educated a time or two at long ranges and the guys with the lower powered scopes take care of the close stuff, i dont like to sew up a bunch of holes in a coyote that i want to sell.
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At the price of western pelts, you might cover primer costs. We shoot them to kill them, not for money.
Soon wolves (south of rt 191) will get the same treatment.
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yeah i know that, i was just there, this fall the way it sounds, when i lived there we got up to $60 a piece for them, but we worked really hard to make them pretty, some only got $30 but i think right now its all in the dumps.
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yeah  pyro im very happy with the scope  
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