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    Posted: January/12/2011 at 20:04
I'm shooting tree rats from 8 yards to 50 yards with a PCP air rifle.  Currently using a Centerpoint scope and need something that will pi&& me off less with poor optics.  For the money, it's not a bad scope, but I'm really tired of the super sensitive eye position needed.

I need min 6x and would probably sometimes use as much as 20x zoom.  I need side focus min to 10y, but closer is better.  Since I shoot quickly from 8 yards to 35 and 50y, I don't adjust turrets, but use mil dots or other reticle markings.

I really want some good glass that has forgiving eye position like my Nikon Monarch or Leupold VX-3 that I have on other rifles and like very much.

I"m looking at Hawke Sidewinder http://swfa.com/Hawke-4-16x50-Sidewinder-30mm-Riflescope-P41102.aspx but I have no experience and worry that I may not like the glass.
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Unfortunately your air rifle is distroying any standard rifle scope you put on it (reverse recoil). And it doesn't matter how much the scope cost either. Here are some built for air rifles that may work for you without spendind a fortune. There may be more options with high end companies if they build air rifle scopes. I have recently bought a BSA for my air rifle but, have not had a chance to try it yet. I don't particularly like BSA but figured I'd try this one.
 

RWS 3X9X44 ILLUM RET MILDOT, RWS 4X12X50CL ILLUM RET MILDOT

BSA AIR RIFLE 3-9X40AO CP, BSA SCPE AIRGUN 2-7X32

 
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Air rifles are really hard on scopes because the recoil is very different than centerfire and rimfire cartridges.  Most scopes are designed for high power rifles and parallax set at 100 yds. Scopes with adjustable parallax often do not focus down below 40 or 50 yds.  So you are definately looking for a specialty scope.  One of the Super Sniper scopes would work for you as they focus down to 10 meters.  Leupold has some EFR scopes but they are spendy.  I dont really have a good suggestion for you but I'll ask one of the guys.

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I'm happy with the optics I have from Hawke. My Eclipse model has better glass than my Vortex Diamondback. I haven't got to handle one of the sidewinder series.


The PCP air rifles use a precharged cannister do they not? Might be easier on the optics than a hard springer. 


Just my .02, but I think the Hawke might be a good option.

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Thanks for suggestions.

You're right about the recoil.  This is a PCP (pre-charged pneumatic) and has virtually no recall either forward or backward.  Instead of relying on a spring to send compressed air into the chamber, it stores compressed air and releases it into the chamber when fired.

With that in mind, I'm going to look into the Super Snipers as I didn't realize they would go that low.  Is there anything I should looking at?  Budget is a little flexible.  For a really good scope, I'd go 400-500.

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Don't know of anyone that has a SS that doesn't like it. In fact most people that have one, buy more of them.   


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Try the NIKKO STIRLINGs... People prefer these to the MARK IV Leupolds on these rifles and they do just fine.

The other that gets a bad rap is the Falcons again they are built for this type shooting.

I know people on here don't think much of them but they are just fine.

They have the reticle you are looking for.




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As already stated, PCP airguns don't kick. Almost any scope will do that fits the application.
The 3-9 SS would be a good choice if the 9X is enough magnification. The Leupold 6.5-20x40 EFR has a great reputation for airgun shooting. It is quite a bit outside the $500 price range, though.
The 3-9x33 EFR Leupold is another fine choice. I have a similar 3.5-10x50 EFR and it works great. It is adjustable down to 7 yds. Both would need to have reticles installed for ranging and holdover.

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Hmm...  This is all good information.  I've been thinking about the SS line.  Maybe I should get one and play around with it.  If it doesn't work for this application, it might be nice to have in the quiver anyway.

I have to read up on the HD vs. non-HD ones now.


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