Trijicon accupoint 2.5-12.5 x 42

I can give you actual (informal) head to head comparisons from this year in the field with a number of other scopes, but not the Trijicon.  So I'd be interested to hear how good it is also. I'm also in search of the best possible low light scope.

I had the Accupoint 3-9 x 40 with the green triangle. Did everything I needed well. Highly visible in the woods at low light. 

my constant question is "compared to what"  when people say it's great and awesome and bright, what is the qualifier? 

It will be going on a TC encore pro hunter 50 cal muzzle loader. I'd just get the standard duplex with greem dot. Being a bow hunter I'm very comfortable with a green dot as my aiming point.

Want it to work well for close range and max range of 200 yards. There is also a chance the scope would end up on my 1/2 moa AR.

probably wrote: For example, the VX3i had nothing but glowing recommendations from everyone.

BigGameBalls wrote: It will be going on a TC encore pro hunter 50 cal muzzle loader. I'd just get the standard duplex with greem dot. Being a bow hunter I'm very comfortable with a green dot as my aiming point. Want it to work well for close range and max range of 200 yards. There is also a chance the scope would end up on my 1/2 moa AR.

Are you saying the lit dot is too big?

Also hoping someone can answer the question on how easy the eye box is to get behind? 

Rancid Coolaid wrote: probably wrote: For example, the VX3i had nothing but glowing recommendations from everyone.   Check your fire! Not "everyone", I'd point out. I hunt pigs at night in Texas, sometimes with a trijicon (had a 2.5-10x56 on a 6.8SPC and son now has the 3-9 on a 308.  I've also run the 5-20 on an AR10.)  My current setup is either a 6.5creedmore with a  white phosphorus clip-on in front of a Tangent Theta 3-15 or a Sig716 with PEK15 and PVS14 on a helmet mount.  I have used the 308 by moonlight, prefer a bit more light though. Deer rifles shooting in dawn/dusk and in heavy woods, I have a few Swaro 3-9 and 3-10s (1" versions and they are quite bright but the reticle gets lost in low light), they are on the "favorite list" too, and my fallback is a 300WM bolt gun topped with a Kahles K624i, it is okay in low light, but is not a stellar optical platform - and I heartily recommend against getting one, unless you shoot lefty lots, in which case the parallax turret is in an awesome location though not the greatest functionally. So, after killing a few hundred pigs, most in low light, I'd say the Accupoints are about as good at low light as you will get (in terms of brightness and reticle visibility) short of spending about 1.5X as much.  My Hensoldt 3-12x56 is appreciably brighter, and easier to get behind, and the illumination is great - but it went for about $3,500 when new.  The TT 3-15 is also brighter (without the ARD) but they run about $4,000. And keep in mind I am in something of an anti-Trijicon funk, so it pains me to recommend them, but my experiences with the 3-9 and 2.5-10 have been exceedingly positive. I don't buy Leupold, have had failures that cause me to not trust them.  Not "everyone" has recommended them, at least going back 20 years.  If you go back further, maybe, but it'd be written in chalk on a cave wall or something.

In my experience, you are not going to get a scope that blows another away when you reach certain price points.  Trijicon are good, not excellent, but good.  THe illumination system is excellent, so it makes up some for the good glass in low light.  You may have a scope with excellent optics, but a sh*tty reticle design.  I have a swaro z6 that was amazing in the optics department, but the reticle was to thin for low light, so it was worthless to me for early morning hunting.  I sold it and bought a VX-6 with bold reticle and while the glass was not quite as good, it is more usable in low light for me.  I then bought a VX5 with firedot and it is even better in low light. 

Will a mangus blow away a trijicon or VX-6?  Not likely, but I dare bet it is indeed a little better.  But it is not going to be like you are going from a tasco to a Swaro z6.  You may gain 5% better optics maybe a bit more, or maybe a bit less.  But it is not going to be mind blowing.   

I have a 5-20X50 BAC Amber on my Savage PC .308, Great low light optic. I’ve shot quite a few critters at the edge of darkness and beyond. I bought the 4-16X50 MOA reticle which is a mil-dot #4 and have it mounted on a Sako 85 Finnlite in .300wm. It’s very good when the sun goes down and pretty good on my 500yd range. It’s not as good as my S&B Stratos or my Leica ER but it’s better than my NF SHV or NXS when darkness comes. I have a few Leupold remaining but never hunt with them, the ones I have suck in low light.

Supertool how would you compare the glass in low light on the Accupoint and the VX5 HD? I am cconsidering the 3-15x44 with firedot also. Also which scope has a more forgiving eye box?

probably wrote: I can give you actual (informal) head to head comparisons from this year in the field with a number of other scopes, but not the Trijicon.  So I'd be interested to hear how good it is also. I'm also in search of the best possible low light scope. (My kid and I tested a bunch of different scopes in a 2-person stand during deer season this year - we rotated different rifles each time we went out, with my swaro binoculars as the constant)

The only accupoint i have currently is a 1-4x. So comparing to my 2-10x vx5 is not really apples to apples. But i would say vx5 glass is slightly brighter. But again we are comapring a 24mm objective to a 42mm.

So if you could get the scope in question for $725 wpuld you jump on it?

Yes, I love my vx5

I meant the trijicom

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edit to that post:  the diavari C is a 3-9x36 T*  not a 40.

Doesn't suprise me on the meostar. I have 8x32 meostar HD binos and they are one of the best purchases I've ever made with hunting equiptment.

So i think I have narrowed it down to the accupoint 2.5-12.5x42, and a leupold vx5 hd in either 2-10x42 or 3-18x44. I like the eye relief and mag range on the trijicon best. I like the weight and smaller size on the leupolds better. Any advice on which would make the better scope on a muzzle loader for low light hunting would be appreciated. I can get any of the 3 scopes for under $800 so cost isnt a factor.

Also I've never owned a scope with the side paralax adjustment. Not sure if I want to deal with another thing to worry about adjusting. I believe the 3-15 vx5 is the only scope with parralax adjustment. Dont really understand if this is something of focusing the image or just removing shooting error. If I'm constantly going to have to mess with the nob to get a clear image at differnt distances I want nothing to do with it.