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Hey guys I read a review on the Trijicon TR-23 and they say it´s a superb scope for the price. What would you say about it?? Do you think it´s better than the PST?? It comes with a 5x-20x magnification which i think it´s great because it can be used for both hunting and shooting. IMO it´s the most balanced magnification ratio you can find.

I'm making the comparison because it falls around the same price range than the PST and i'm waiting for mine to be sent.


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The Tijicon will most likely have much better glass, but it only has 50 MOA of internal adjustment. The illumination systen Trijicon uses is also better IMO. But with the Viper you get turrets that match your reticle and a First Focal Plane scope that sub-tends at all mag levels, whereas the Trijicon is a Second Focal Plane and only sub-tends on one mag level without more math added. And at this time only MOA knobs are offered on the Trijicon.

  Basically it comes down to what features are more important to you for the money.
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Like BB said you only have 50MOA internal elevation adjustmetn with the Trijicons, if that will get you as far as you normally shoot, It would be fine.   The viper pst hasn't been released yet, the ones that where didn't hold up to par so they took them off the market and have started re-working them to met the high standards Vortex put on them.  When they come out, I think they will be well worth every penny, but until they do, its not something many can weigh in on.

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I don't know that the Trijicon will have "much" better glass.  The regular Viper glass is pretty dang nice.  Accupoint glass may be a bit better, but not a whole lot.  From what I have read the PST glass is a bit better than the regular Viper glass.  So I bet they will be pretty close.
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One is a known value (Trijicon) and one is an assumed value (the PST isn't out yet and probably not before year's end.)

On a 20MOA base, the Trijicon will get out past 1000 yards on .308+, if you need a 1400+ yard gun, neither Trijicon nor PST are what you need.

If you want the Trijicon (5-20 mil dot, green illum), I have one for sale, it is a good scope.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

The Tijicon will most likely have much better glass

 
I don't think so.  The Viper PST supposedly has upgraded optics from the standard Viper.  This would probably put it in the same general class as Trijicon, Conquest, etc.  I haven't done a head to head comparison, but if the PST samples I saw at SHOT are any indication, the glass is very good... as best I could tell inside a convention center.  I looked for CA and flare issues against the lighting inside the building, a rough evaluation of resolution against distant signs and fine details, field edge condition, tunnel effect, etc. and all looked quite good.  It would probably take some pretty critical, extended viewing head to head with Trijicon to say conclusively that one was better than the other optically.
 
As has been noted, the PST line isn't available yet, so you aren't likely to get many, if any, comments on them.  Those who have used one, such as Jon A on this forum, have only seen pre-production samples.
 
I can say without a doubt that the Trijicon TR23 is a superb scope... at least by my definition of "superb," taking into account its intended applications. 


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I don't think you'll beat the combination of features, quality and low price the PST will have, but they are not yet available.

If interested in a scope in the TR23 range, add the Weaver 4-20 Tactical to the list.  It  doesn't have mil knobs either, but at least the reticle is FFP so you can use it at any power.  Around 57 MOA of adjustment, long eye relief and excellent glass. 

I haven't messed with the TR23 so I can't say much about it other than if low light/close range woods hunting is on the menu it should do quite a bit better than the Weaver (which has no illumination).
 
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Thank you all for your comments. They both semm to be very nice scopes. I just hadn't heard about this TR-23 before.
 
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