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RifleDude
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Dolphin just recently had a new baby boy (or actually his wife did), so he may have his hands full with that. He can give you better feedback on Weatherby rifles in general, however, I have quite a bit of experience with the Howa 1500, which is the exact same action as the Weatherby Vanguard. It is a well-made, solid rifle that generally shoots as good as its competitors. I see no reason why the Vanguard shouldn't shoot well, especially the "Sub MOA" model. My only objection to the Vanguard is the stock shape, but that is a personal preference thing. If you like the way it feels, it's a good rifle.
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Ted
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Dolphin
Optics Master Joined: October/05/2006 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 1795 |
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I am back briefly. The Wby. Vanguard is an excellent choice. Fine shooter. You cannot go wrong. Built like a tank. The Howa 1500 is essentially the same rifle with some modifications made to the bolt action, but since I own both, I really do not see a major difference. I would not worry about the synthetic stock on the basic Wby. Vanguard, it is as well made as alot of custom synthetic stocks I have seen. There is not that hollow feel when you knock on it like the cheap ones from most of the other major manufactures on their lower lines of rifles. Very solid. Only comes in black, so that is your major limitation. Wby. can swith out to a different stock if you prefer, but then you might as well go to a sub-moa. Some people will go to a gunshop and look through the target supplied with the rifles and pick the best of the basic Vanguard, of which alot are close to and some sub-moa. That is how Wby. designates which rifle becomes a sub-moa. As rifledude has often said, every rifle that comes off of the assembly line, no matter what make, is not going to shoot the same. Too many variations, especially with "hammer forged" barrels and the residual barrel stress. I am not sure why they continue to use the term "hammer forged", when a hammer has not been used in years and a giant press with a rifling tube does all of the work in a minute or so. The other issue is wood versus synthetic. We all know the advantage when it come to inclement weather and what happens to wood and barrel torque. But, besides that, Roy Weatherby wanted his beautiful rifles to be hunted, not stored in a safe, or as they call, "safe queens". I am quilty of also pulling out my synthetics when hunting, but have promised myself, no more. I was set up this year to use a Wby. Mark V 300 mag. wooden, a Wby. Mark V 7 mm STW Euromark (obviously wooden, reported to have been handled by Roy himself, never shot before, until I got it) and an Accumark 30-378, of course synthetic. Everything went sour when I wrecked my 72 Chevrolet Cheyene Supreme pickup truck that I used for hunting. I collided with a Honda minivan. Totalled my truck, 90 dollars worth of damage to the Honda.
Now back to your choices. If you go synthetic and want colors, go sub-moa, you will not go wrong, otherwise, stick with the basic. Wood, the sporter is gorgeous. Best wooden stock for the money on the market, bar none and the Deluxe is one step up. You want the real deal. Get a Mark V. Look through gunsamerica.com. Alot of times you can find a used one that is in excellent condition for a substantial discount. Try Jay Barrington out of Raleigh, NC. His e-mail is barryb@nc.rr.com. I have purchased two rifles from him. (The 300 and Accumark above, mint condition, both of them). His prices are reasonable and if I remember correctly, he will negotiate a little bit. I hope this helps. |
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outdoorAg
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Congrats on the baby boy and thanks for taking the time to post here.I'll keep my eyes out at gunsamerica. Thanks Dolphin.
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Dolphin
Optics Master Joined: October/05/2006 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 1795 |
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No problem and thanks. You will never go wrong with a Wby. I own too many, well 7 or 8. Not enough.
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tahqua
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Congratulations from Michigan, too. |
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Dolphin
Optics Master Joined: October/05/2006 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 1795 |
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Thanks guys.
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pyro6999
Optics Retard OT TITAN Joined: December/22/2006 Location: North Dakota Status: Offline Points: 22034 |
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i knew he would come in here at some point in time and he tells it from experience.between rifledude dolphin tahqua cheaptrick koshkin lucznik and myself someone should be able to give an answer, there is lots and lots of years and experiences in that list of names.
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ROCKMAN57
Optics Apprentice Joined: February/24/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Hey Bud Just do like I did.I have a Rem Model 700 BDL in 30-06 thats my baby.It's about 25 years old.I've had it two years now and it's beautiful.I went to the gunshow and bought "wifey" a Howa Lightening 1500(Vangaurd) in 270.It has a black synthetic stock and looked brand new with a Redfield 3-12x44 that also looked brand new. $300.00 total package.Used one season and it already looks more used up than the 700 but it shoots like a dream.I always take it on my trips she's not on as a back-up but don't tell her it's a back-up for foul weather hunts.LOL But thats just me.I love the fine wood. Good luck either way bud. Rock
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dotis
Optics GrassHopper Joined: March/28/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Wanting to upgrade from my 22 hornet to a 22-250 for varmints on the farm and just some fun reloading and long range fun, I bought a Vanguard Varmint Special in 22-250, I did NOT get the MOA. I really like reloading and working up a nice load to get the best I can. I hope this gun isn't going to disapoint me. I put a Tasco World Class 4-16 scope on it just to get me going while I save for a better one. I do somewhat of a barrel break in, so I bore sighted, shot at 50 yards at a big target. not to bad 6" low 6" right, cleaned and shot 2nd round, could see nothing on the target, great! So I went and looked closer at the target, and the second hole was touching the first. Lucky! cleaned and shot again and again, carefully shooting from a bench each time, and I can group this thing at 50 yards on a dime, I don't very often get lucky but this one is a keeper. BTW I am using Federal Premium V-SHOK 55 gr NBT, I am surprized, but happy, and the Tasco aint so bad after all, I will still change it when I can afford it. I can only do 50 yards flat in my backyard as I live on a mountain, so I'm looking forward to the range to do 100 yards plus.
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