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    Posted: April/01/2008 at 21:17
What size group do you consider acceptable, do you dump the inaccurate ones?

For me it started at an inch at 100 yards, now it is getting to where they have to shoot at least .5" or off they go.

Currently got 2 rifles that are under .25" with the best coming from the Remmy 700 5R spit out a .182 the other day (my best ever).

Just thought it would be interesting to see what everyone else considers a keeper.
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some folks figure eight inches , if smaller your shooting to slow.
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Well, I'm a just a hunter, not a serious shooter, so as long as they are all in a group smaller than a deer heart, I'm ok.  Although my BAR 30-06 will shoot way better than that.  If I do my part, she'll shoot an inch group at 100 yds.  My main coyote gun (Rem 700 .223)  will group 3 the size of a dime at 100 yds. 
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Originally posted by luv2shoot luv2shoot wrote:

What size group do you consider acceptable, do you dump the inaccurate ones?

For me it started at an inch at 100 yards, now it is getting to where they have to shoot at least .5" or off they go.

Currently got 2 rifles that are under .25" with the best coming from the Remmy 700 5R spit out a .182 the other day (my best ever).

Just thought it would be interesting to see what everyone else considers a keeper.
.......................Depending on the game size and ranges, I generally like to see 1.00" although 1.5" is ok for me. At the very outside, I`ll accept 1.75" for the larger game if the velocity gain is worth the very small sacrifice in accuracy.........I try to balance things out though while looking to gain the best compromise...........
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I allways felt 1 inch at 100m. My first rifle happened to be extremely accurate (Heym). So I never really struggled to get my 1 inch or there abouts. On a bad day I would blame myself for being off form. Then I joined this forum and life as I knew it has never been the same again. Now I am trying to shoot 5 bullets through the same hole!!! And if that does not happen, which it never has, I blame the gun, the scope, the bullets... I reload, I re-barrel, re-scope, re-stock. Stuff I never did before. Anyway, can't waste more time on this forum, I got some empty shells to neck turn.....

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1 to 1.5 inch at 100yds for hunting, 1 inch at 300 yds for tactical or target puposes. 
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For big game hunting rifles:  1 - 1.5 MOA (except for stuff like lever actions where 2.5 MOA is acceptable)

For heavy barreled varmint rifles:  0.5 MOA
 
For informal target rifles:  Less than 0.5 MOA
 
For benchrest rifles:  0.25 MOA or better
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

For big game hunting rifles:  1 - 1.5 MOA (except for stuff like lever actions where 2.5 MOA is acceptable)

For heavy barreled varmint rifles:  0.5 MOA
 
 
That's what I think, too. Most of my big game guns are under 1 MOA, though.
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Well put Ted.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

For big game hunting rifles:  1 - 1.5 MOA (except for stuff like lever actions where 2.5 MOA is acceptable)

For heavy barreled varmint rifles:  0.5 MOA
 
For informal target rifles:  Less than 0.5 MOA
 
For benchrest rifles:  0.25 MOA or better
 
this is a pretty good scale to start with but as we all know it gets addictive to get the group as small as possable all the time. If i was able to go out and shoot a 0.25MOA group all day long i would probably sleep at nights,but I don't so it keeps me up trying to figuer out how I can.
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

 
this is a pretty good scale to start with but as we all know it gets addictive to get the group as small as possable all the time. If i was able to go out and shoot a 0.25MOA group all day long i would probably sleep at nights,but I don't so it keeps me up trying to figuer out how I can.
 
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

For big game hunting rifles:  1 - 1.5 MOA (except for stuff like lever actions where 2.5 MOA is acceptable)

For heavy barreled varmint rifles:  0.5 MOA
 
For informal target rifles:  Less than 0.5 MOA
 
For benchrest rifles:  0.25 MOA or better
 
You forgot to tell us what type of shooting must put all bullets in the same hole, Ted!! 
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ed they don't have to be in the same hole for .25 moa, overall size minus bullet dia. its an accepted method.
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oh-- ok
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

For big game hunting rifles:  1 - 1.5 MOA (except for stuff like lever actions where 2.5 MOA is acceptable)

For heavy barreled varmint rifles:  0.5 MOA
 
For informal target rifles:  Less than 0.5 MOA
 
For benchrest rifles:  0.25 MOA or better
 
You forgot to tell us what type of shooting must put all bullets in the same hole, Ted!! 
 
That's top secret, Ed.Wink
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yep, 1 inch at 100yds or less, I just got rid of my ruger no. 1 7mm cause I could not get it more accurate than 1.75 in 3 shot groups (without spending more money).
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im looking for .75 inch groups with 5 shots in my hunting rifles, .50 inches in my varmint rifles im a picky cat like that im not affraid to ditch any rifle that doesnt satisify my accuracy standards.
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I really prefer my rifle be able  to shoot a gnat's ass at a thousand yards but the dam wind keeps giving me trouble. 
For deer guns accuracy capable of one shot kills is all I need but I have really struggled with inaccuracy issues with slug guns and muskets so I use a bow.  A rifle capable of 2moa out to 600 yds should be able to kill anything that I would need to shoot at but if I cant get the rifle under one inch at a hundred I loose any desire to continue owning it.  (Minute of Keeper) and if its better than that I could get really excited. So exactly what are these .25moa guns you guys have and what did you do to get them there or were you just lucky?

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

 
this is a pretty good scale to start with but as we all know it gets addictive to get the group as small as possable all the time. If i was able to go out and shoot a 0.25MOA group all day long i would probably sleep at nights,but I don't so it keeps me up trying to figuer out how I can.
 
The pursuit is the fun part -- or the frustrating part, depending on your point of view.
ted I agree. I have the one shot one hole groupe mastered.
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