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    Posted: September/19/2011 at 01:15

I've been out of the "optics game" so to speak for quite some time now, but I was wondering what is generally considered to one of the toughest most durable scopes that money can buy nowadays? Price being no object.

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Schmidt bender Police Marksman line is as about good as its gets, the 5-25x56 PM II is nothing short of out of this world incredible......its however bout 3500 bucks
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Wow, just did a quick search, their line of scopes are indeed incredible.
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NightForce,U.S.O., Henny's, Premier all have a  very rugged reputation as well. The Vortex razor is also developing one. There are several others as well that aren't in stratosphere as far price goes. If you have a price range and a options list we will try to help...
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Fixed powers from most manufactures are usually very reliable, also add the Supersniper line of scopes to the "toughest" list.
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Anything mechanical can/will break.

Leupolds break more than most.


My top 2 for durability are Premier and Nightfroce.  Others have broken both, I have yet to break either.

Hensoldt is best all-around, followed closely by Premier, in my opinion. But Hensoldt isn't as bomb-proof as Premier, or mine wasn't.  

S&B makes a great scope, but they too fail.

If your primary concern in tactical optics is which will not break, you are doing it wrong.

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RC ,Hens wasn't? She is gone?
 
I own the Premier LT & it seems to be holding up very well on my T/C .460mag. but that's not a 50 either.I have broken 2 scopes on that rifle.
 
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Henny went in for repair, it is back.  I love the scope, but it broke.  It wasn't abused and it wasn't on a heavy-recoil gun, the illumination system died - and I understand many have.

I like the Premier Heritage so much, I have a LT on the way, I have high hopes.
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What about the SS line from SWFA?  Not the most expensive out there, but all in all I have never really heard of them breaking.  They are tested and approved for .50 cal.
Stumbling upon a thread saying a SS scope broke is very rare - at least I haven't seen many if any that I can recall.
 
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This doesn't suprise me at all, there are several suggestions here for toughest most durable scope. I guess it might be too difficult and too broad of a question to pin point one specific model.
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I haven't seen any mention of some of the big european brands like Zeiss, Leica, and Swarovski, how do these scopes stack up against the one's currently mentioned?
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Depends on what the scope is designed to do.  My vote goes to Trijicon ACOG's.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Henny went in for repair, it is back.  I love the scope, but it broke.  It wasn't abused and it wasn't on a heavy-recoil gun, the illumination system died - and I understand many have.

I like the Premier Heritage so much, I have a LT on the way, I have high hopes.
Hensoldt has always had a problem with illumination... 
Works great, so far, on mine but it is always a concern to me.  
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Originally posted by ebow86 ebow86 wrote:

I haven't seen any mention of some of the big european brands like Zeiss, Leica, and Swarovski, how do these scopes stack up against the one's currently mentioned?

Hensoldt is the mil spec, "hardened" Zeiss...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Henny went in for repair, it is back.  I love the scope, but it broke.  It wasn't abused and it wasn't on a heavy-recoil gun, the illumination system died - and I understand many have.

I like the Premier Heritage so much, I have a LT on the way, I have high hopes.
Hensoldt has always had a problem with illumination... 
Works great, so far, on mine but it is always a concern to me.  
 
 
Really, you would think a semi good production scope would work as advertizes. What a junker.... First of next week i'm sending a gaylord of used scope to the recyling center. shot it to me and I'll get you a nice door stop or parper weight out of it. Then I bet it will work all the time..Big Smile 
 
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Henny went in for repair, it is back.  I love the scope, but it broke.  It wasn't abused and it wasn't on a heavy-recoil gun, the illumination system died - and I understand many have.

I like the Premier Heritage so much, I have a LT on the way, I have high hopes.
Hensoldt has always had a problem with illumination... 
Works great, so far, on mine but it is always a concern to me.  
 
 
Really, you would think a semi good production scope would work as advertizes. What a junker.... First of next week i'm sending a gaylord of used scope to the recyling center. shot it to me and I'll get you a nice door stop or parper weight out of it. Then I bet it will work all the time..Big Smile 
 
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The ZF6x42 on the PSG-1 was always "inop".  Only thing about it I didn't like.  Then sometimes, it would just "come on".
 
The Hensoldt ZF6-24x72 that MY WONDERFUL WIFE purchased FOR ME, has never given me any problems, but it has not seen high usage.  I don't use illumination much, anyway, but there are times when it is good to have.  I hope mine never fails, but would not be surprised at it. 
 
yes, you would think a halfway decent scope maker like Zeiss/Hensoldt could at least make the IR work.  Maybe one of these days they'll get their act together.  Until then, I guess I'll just have to depend on my wife to make my major scope purchases for me.  If she keeps trying, maybe she'll get me a good one...
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European buys you better glass not a tougher scope.  Combat Optics like the Aimpoint Comp M4s and the Trijicon ACOGS are designed for abuse.  Fixed power scopes are typically able to sustain the most abuse and continue to function so a fixed 6x or fixed 10x is a rock solid choice. If you want a top quality scope that is tough think Heinsoldt or U.S. Optics or Nightforce, or Premier. If you want to save some money and have a tough scope look at the Super Sniper scopes.   Just remember scopes are glass so there is a limit to how tough any of them are.

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Is there a particular brand that the US military supply's our soldiers with or are there many different brands being used?
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Marines use S&B, and Premier. Army is still using Leuppy.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Marines use S&B, and Premier. Army is still using Leuppy.
 
I take it you mean leupold. Intresting choice for the US Army.
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Most of the ones Wes mentioned are being used & also I understand S&B just got a nice contract along with the new Leupold 1.1-8x24 mk8 cqbss.
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No...It is a very old choice. The Army has not upgraded its "sniper day-optic" for a long long time. There are much better choices, both "for the money", and durability/capability wise.
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