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Who sales the Winchester Model 70?? I want to look at one, hold  it etc etc to see if it may be my next bolt rifle. I can't seem to find a retailer that sells them locally.--Bboy623
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I check their website and they have some local dealers listed, but they've not had them every time I check. Anyone have any opinions on the new Model 70? I know they are made in my sister state of SC.--BBoy623
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They are now made by FN in Columbia, SC.  From all reports quality has improved markedly since FN took over manufacturing of the M70 vs. USRAC.  From the samples I've seen, it does look like fit and finish and checkering quality has improved.  The new trigger has a higher quality pull and is able to be safely adjusted to a lighter pull, however I also liked the ruggedness and incredible simplicity of the old trigger.  I haven't shot one of the new FN made ones yet, but other than the trigger, they have the same design as the old USRAC versions.

Maybe someone from your area will be able to advise you on who carries them, but you can always just call the gun stores close to you and ask.  In my opinion, if you've handled and shot the previous USRAC  "classic" versions of the M70, you already know enough to make a buying decision, as the overall design (minus the trigger) and ergonomics are the same, except quality has improved.  You just have to evaluate whether you are willing to spend the increased asking price.  You can always peruse the online gun auction sites (gunsamerica.com, gunbroker.com, etc.) and you're likely to find them there.  
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

They are now made by FN in Columbia, SC.  From all reports quality has improved markedly since FN took over manufacturing of the M70 vs. USRAC.  From the samples I've seen, it does look like fit and finish and checkering quality has improved.  The new trigger has a higher quality pull and is able to be safely adjusted to a lighter pull, however I also liked the ruggedness and incredible simplicity of the old trigger.  I haven't shot one of the new FN made ones yet, but other than the trigger, they have the same design as the old USRAC versions.

Maybe someone from your area will be able to advise you on who carries them, but you can always just call the gun stores close to you and ask.  In my opinion, if you've handled and shot the previous USRAC  "classic" versions of the M70, you already know enough to make a buying decision, as the overall design (minus the trigger) and ergonomics are the same, except quality has improved.  You just have to evaluate whether you are willing to spend the increased asking price.  You can always peruse the online gun auction sites (gunsamerica.com, gunbroker.com, etc.) and you're likely to find them there.
 
+1. I've held one of the new Columbia S.C. made ones over here recently in Australia and the quality is outstanding!!! Shame it doesn't come in left-handed...
 
Quote from Winchester website: "They are made to the exact ISO 9001 standard of quality that Uncle Sam insists upon for military firearms"
 


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I actually went out of town today and a retailer there had a couple. They had a black synthetic stock one that was ok for $699. Then they had a featherlight wood stock that was $729. It was NICE!! The action was sooooooooooooooooooooo much smoother than the black one--dunno why. I really liked it. Only thing I DIDN'T like was the safety was really LOUD when you clicked it off. That could be a potential for disaster on a big buck. I don't know if some Royal Purple Maxfilm or some other type of lube would quiet it down or not. 

What is the difference between the featherlight and the Super grade. The super grade's MSRP is like $1100 bucks!! What do you get for an extra $400???---Bboy623
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Also---how does the new model 70 COMPARE to the Browning X-bolt?? I was saving for an X-bolt and then got distracted by upgrading my scopes.

It's been awhile since I held an X-bolt, but I think the 70 has a smoother action. But the X is a Browning...so..........---Bboy623
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Originally posted by Bboy623 Bboy623 wrote:

I actually went out of town today and a retailer there had a couple. They had a black synthetic stock one that was ok for $699. Then they had a featherlight wood stock that was $729. It was NICE!! The action was sooooooooooooooooooooo much smoother than the black one--dunno why. I really liked it. Only thing I DIDN'T like was the safety was really LOUD when you clicked it off. That could be a potential for disaster on a big buck. I don't know if some Royal Purple Maxfilm or some other type of lube would quiet it down or not. 

What is the difference between the featherlight and the Super grade. The super grade's MSRP is like $1100 bucks!! What do you get for an extra $400???---Bboy623
 
 
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Originally posted by Bboy623 Bboy623 wrote:

I actually went out of town today and a retailer there had a couple. They had a black synthetic stock one that was ok for $699. Then they had a featherlight wood stock that was $729. It was NICE!! The action was sooooooooooooooooooooo much smoother than the black one--dunno why. I really liked it. Only thing I DIDN'T like was the safety was really LOUD when you clicked it off. That could be a potential for disaster on a big buck. I don't know if some Royal Purple Maxfilm or some other type of lube would quiet it down or not. 

What is the difference between the featherlight and the Super grade. The super grade's MSRP is like $1100 bucks!! What do you get for an extra $400???---Bboy623

Is there some "special" wood  on the Super grade that the featherweight doesn't have??---Bboy623
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Usually a lot better grade of walnut.........
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I actually thought you were joking Ed..my bad. For $400 I'll keep the featherweight wood and give me a Zeiss Conquest please!! LOL---Bboy623
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Originally posted by Bboy623 Bboy623 wrote:

I actually thought you were joking Ed..my bad. For $400 I'll keep the featherweight wood and give me a Zeiss Conquest please!! LOL---Bboy623
 
 
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the  safety will quite down with use.
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yea...but its like the difference in YELLING in your ear versus whispering 50 feet away with my Mossberg safety!!! Night and day! --Bboy623
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

the  safety will quite down with use.

if you carefully move it from safe to fire its quiet, dont just reach your finger up there and give it a flick, cause a loud click is what you will get. i would really love to replace my two position on my m700 with a m70 style safety.
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Anyone have any thoughts in how it compares to a Browning X-bolt?????---Bboy623
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i love brownings, ive had two of them and  they were both excellent shooters and well built, course they are abolts, i expect the xbolt to be as good if not better. i would take browning over winchester, on accuracy for sure, plus i like the clips browning uses.
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Yea....its just that FN is making the barrels for Winchester on that Model 70......I just need to convince the Mrs. I NEED both!!  ---LOL----Bboy623
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I will tell you this much already, there are not a lot of aftermarket parts for the Model 70 just and FYI. 

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 I will tell you this much already, there are not a lot of aftermarket parts for the Model 70 just and FYI.

Good article on the x-bolt
http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/ST_browningsxbolt_200812/
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I have a Browning X-Bolt in 270....hence the screen name.  I almost bought a FN model 70....but to me the Browning action was smoother,  the trigger felt better and it just felt better to me. 
 
I can tell you this.  I topped the X Bolt off with a Zeiss Conquest and it has been a remarkable shooter.  I knew after I fired the first 3 shot group that I had a shooter.  My only complaint is that the barrel does heat up pretty fast. 
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Do yourself a favor stay with Tikka,  Savage,  Remmington,  Weatherby / Howa,   CZ.
I had really crappy luck with Winchester in the Coyote Lite 300WSM that wouldnt eject, and bad luck with a Browning Stainless .375 H&H that wouldnt shoot a group if you held it a foot from the target.  Ive bought three tikkas in the last year and they all shoot under an inch at 100 all day long. The Rem if it wont shoot there are gunsmiths who can true the action and make it shoot. The Salvages are out of the box deadly too.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

Do yourself a favor stay with Tikka,  Savage,  Remmington,  Weatherby / Howa,   CZ.
I had really crappy luck with Winchester in the Coyote Lite 300WSM that wouldnt eject, and bad luck with a Browning Stainless .375 H&H that wouldnt shoot a group if you held it a foot from the target.  Ive bought three tikkas in the last year and they all shoot under an inch at 100 all day long. The Rem if it wont shoot there are gunsmiths who can true the action and make it shoot. The Salvages are out of the box deadly too.

as far as the browing goes, im guessing you got a lemmon, you are the first and only person i know who had a browning that wouldnt shoot. the winchester you got was made before they closed the plant, most of those guns were pieces of sh*t. my H&H is on a m70 and it shoots pretty well, but it has an aftermarket tube on it too.
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