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I dig your nail polish, eclipse!Wink



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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Never go to war with an unproven weapon!
 
I like the paint job on the rifle.
 
Test the hell out of the Vortex, it too could fail.
 
Mostly I agree with what everyone else has said, except 8shot and the Leupold thing, but experiences vary.
 
I also agree with everything said here...especially the nail polishSmile
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From all accounts I've read, the failure rate on Conquests is very low. They are not a flimsy scope. I've had mine on some brutally hard recoiling rifles, and it's survived about 3,000 rounds of all magnum loads. I guess everyone has a bad day, and you got a bad day scope. Once Zeiss gets you taken care of, I think you'll be happy with it.
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I have 7 Zeiss Conquest scopes.  I only bought 2 of them new, the rest were used.   One I bought used was a factory refurb, so it must have been returned to Zeiss for some reason or problem.  All 7 of them track well and shoot to point of aim.  One of the good things about Zeiss is their lifetime warranty even if you didn't buy it new.
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Everything man makes can break. Good scope Conquest, I have them on both my big game rifles.
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Good Day,
One of your recommendation was to get a spare scope.
I did better; A Spare rifle/scope.


My Main rifle is a Savage Axis Youth 243, I LOVE this rifle.
So, I bought another one, and put a Nikon Buckmaster on it.
I ordered a Camo Dipping kit in Muddy Girl,
and: Voila !
What do you think of the final result ?

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Looking good, it definitely goes with your finger nail polish.  Big Smile
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Looks good to me ... but what matters most is what you like / want. Good luck!
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

Looks good to me ... but what matters most is what you like / want. Good luck!


Ric, coming from you that's a pretty sedate answer. I thought you might ask for more pics. Ya know what I mean.


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Originally posted by eclipse71 eclipse71 wrote:

Good Day,
One of your recommendation was to get a spare scope.
I did better; A Spare rifle/scope.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Nice very nice.
 
Now just remember to get some spare ammo in case the first lot fails !Smile
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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

Looks good to me ... but what matters most is what you like / want. Good luck!


Ric, coming from you that's a pretty sedate answer. I thought you might ask for more pics. Ya know what I mean.


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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

Looks good to me ... but what matters most is what you like / want. Good luck!


Ric, coming from you that's a pretty sedate answer. I thought you might ask for more pics. Ya know what I mean.


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4 weeks,
they have my email address,
they have my phone number,
they have my mail address.


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Now you are set with three scopes and two rifles!  FWIW, I have four Zeiss scopes and three Leupold's.  Since 2003, I have sent two Leupold's back for service and none of my Zeiss scopes, three out of four Zeiss are Conquest's.  I hope that you get your Zeiss back soon.  Doing service from Canada always adds time also.
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Originally posted by Oldtrader3 Oldtrader3 wrote:


Now you are set with three scopes and two rifles!  FWIW, I have four Zeiss scopes and three Leupold's.  Since 2003, I have sent two Leupold's back for service and none of my Zeiss scopes, three out of four Zeiss are Conquest's.  I hope that you get your Zeiss back soon.  Doing service from Canada always adds time also.

Oldtrader3:`
You are very good with numbers, so you can already figure what is the future of this Zeiss as soon it will be back.      
FYI, I`m in the 40`s, my husband too and we have three kids; everybody in my family shoot or hunt, from rabbit to elk passing by the waterfowl.
Rifles, shotguns, scopes; we have 2 safes full.
but this is ( Zeiss ) my own personal adventure.
It got issue with a Bushnell Elite, they send me a new one in few weeks.
I got issue with a Leupold VX3, my fault: the focus eyepiece locking ring loosen so much it make me missed my target.
I have an old Bushnell with a huge dent in the front objective when it dropped from my threestand 20 years ago, it still working.
it all come downs to, to a matter of personal experience.
In my mind, and this is a Premiere for me; having a scope of this value with such internal failure is completely unacceptable.
Now: lets talk about the customer; I`m shock to put this on-line but I have to do it.
How many customer have access to computer, or take the time to report a situation like this ? 10% max ?

The point is not to bash on Zeiss or said Leupold is worst or better.
this is not the point at all.
But to report an issue with MY riflescope.
When I bought this Zeiss Conquest, it was because of all the GREAT review on-line.
People need to know what is going on, to make their mind and realise nothing`s perfect to make the best decision on the most crucial equipment to properly harvest game: SIGHT


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All and any optic can fail. I have had to send back for repair, Leupold, meopta, Bushnell (two of them), IOR (several of them), Leica, SS, and probably a couple more i cant think of. My Leica binos cost $2400 and they had a chipped/cracked internal lens. Crap happens. It doesn't mean Leica sucks and everyone should swear off of them.   It just means i got unlucky and happened to get one of the small percentage of their bino's that had an issue. I would buy another Leica optic of any variety in a heart beat if it fit a need i had. I still have 3 meopta optics, 3 bushnells, 5 leupolds an IOR, and 2 SS scopes. And they are all doing great

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This reminds me of when we would have manufacturing meetings to discuss scrap/ non-conformance reports at a previous manufacturer I used to work for. We had a specific part that we had "only" 1% non-conformance rate on. In our production meetings we were celebrating the fact we had "only" a 1% non-conformance rate, when the plant manager told us that was unacceptable. We were perplexed by why he would say that. After all, only 1% of parts coming off the line were unacceptable.

He explained that if that 1% happened to slip by QC and one person happened to get a product with a part from that 1%, then if that's the only product that person had ever bought with our brand name on it, that would be a 100% failure rate of our product for him/her. No matter how good our products are, what would be that person's opinion of us?

No matter how good a brand's reputation is, someone out there has likely gotten a lemon. It's good to be reminded of this from time to time. If this never happened, there would be no need for warranties.
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As usual Ted your right on the money. Well said.

Excellent
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Point taken!
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That`s an interesting theory,
my son`s is a mechanic,
change wheel-tires-brakes.
if his employer allowed him 1% failure rate,
it means 6-12 customer per year will lost one wheel while driving,
or the brake system will failed for any reason.
but its only 1%
does it make acceptable ?
If it does happen, my son will be fired
and/or his boss will have to deal with a lawsuit.
but its only 1%
lets see what the judge will say about having a 1% failure rated as acceptable.

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But the fact is that happens all the time.  I have seen wheels fall off cars while driving down the road.  Anything man made and mechanical can and will fail at times.   

It would be awesome if there was a zero failure rate, but that is not reality.  I build and manage computer systems for a living.  I buy a huge amount of computer parts, computer parts quality in general is very good.  But I occasionally have parts failures, either right out of the box or at any time during the life of the part.  Just last week I ordered a 4 terabyte hard drive and the SATA clip was broke off it, so it was not usable.  Brand new.   THe week before I got a lemon motherboard.  But I sent them back and got a exact same replacement parts.  It is just the name of the game. 

I realize it sucks it messed up your hunt and now you have a bad taste in your mouth.  But I just would not let it completely turn you off from Zeiss because of one bad experience.  They make great stuff, I have a pair of Zeiss Victory bino's an absolutely love them.  Let them fix your scope try it out again and I dare bet you will be happy with it.  They are a good company to deal with. 
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I wonder what Zeiss's actual return rate is and what age most of the returned scopes are?  I can certainly understand being upset by a ruined hunt.  I am about to buy my 5th Zeiss in 20 years and I have never had one fail.  However, I never go on a serious hunting trip with just one rifle and scope.
 
Mechanical things do fail and scopes are a highly technologically based and complicated piece of equipment.  I am in no way minimizing failure and the effects and frustration of ruined hunting trips but you make a decision and hope that the numbers protect you.  We are fallible beings.
 
I worked in a medical device plant for many years and our failure rate on our devices had been refined to 1 part in 30 million failure rate but that still is little consolation to that one person who suffers from our failure.
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By the way, good job on the "muddy girl" camo job on your rifle & scope! I showed that pic to my daughter, and she thought it looked really cool.
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To expect absolute perfection in everything you purchase is not even close to being realistic. Anything made can have issues. If you look at any of the premier luxury brands such as Rolex, Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari and so on they all have repair departments that deal with issues. And they cost considerably more than your Zeiss Conquest. Personally I know I am not perfect and have made mistakes and so to expect that others be perfect to me would be rather hypocritical of myself.
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