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    Posted: August/24/2015 at 14:10
I'm in the market for some new glass and got it narrowed down to these 4:
Zeiss Conquest DL 3-12x50
Leupold VX6 2-12x42
Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Kahles Helia C 2.5-10x50

I'd like the clearest glass possible and great color contrast if possible that will thrive in any weather/light conditions I may encounter while hunting North America from Texas hog/audad hunts to caribou/bear in AK.
I'm leaning toward the Zeiss but am not committed 100% yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dw0229 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/24/2015 at 23:33
All of these are fine scopes that will perform very well.When you get to this level of optics there is not one which puts the other to shame. My pick would be the Kahles. You get a broad range of magnification , a large objective diameter and great glass.Should handle anything you encounter.
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Any of those four would suffice nicely! I'm a Swaro slut so... Big Grin
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I like my Kahles CL 3-10 and 2-7 both MZ. They are the best hunting scopes I own.
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How does the water repellency compare between these optics?
How about durability?
Customer service?
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Swaro or Kahles

Bump up the Zeiss model and I'd give that a nod as well.
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What this?? No Leupold love?? 
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Voodoo, I'm surprised with the thread title that our resident Leupold expert hasn't chimed in yet.  Wink
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Kahles or Swaro.

Of the 2, I lean Swaro.  I have several of their scopes, have never been disappointed in their glass.  Cannot say the same for Kahles.
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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Voodoo, I'm surprised with the thread title that our resident Leupold expert hasn't chimed in yet.  Wink

Ah...but the day is young! Big Grin
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I do have a Leupold VX6 4-24x52 TMOA (HEAVY, 34mm tube) on my fast twist 22-250 varmint gun and really like it. I have never ventured into any relationships with German glass yet...
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I'd be addin the Leica ER scope to this thread. Not to worry my fellow OT fans. Just because I bought one from SWFA it (Leica) won't be every word outta my mouth when scope recommendations threads pop up. I still feel that the Bushnell Elites are the best bang for the buck.



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Originally posted by wilkup wilkup wrote:

I have never ventured into any relationships with German glass yet...

Yeah well, the fact that they don't shave their legs regular, takes a little bit of gittin used ta.  
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Ummmm German Glass is IT!!!  all others are copies!
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Ummmm German Glass is IT!!!  all others are copies!


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I mostly agree on the Leica scopes.  My only issues with them have been target turrets that spin way too easy, and really thin reticles.  I understand they have addressed both, but haven't gotten around to verifying in the flesh.

Their glass is quite good.
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If Leica did make a significant change on that front, I'd consider a reticle change on mine, unless it's 400 bucks or something. Nothing shocks me with German pricing on their wears.
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I'm trying to stay around 16 oz... otherwise I'd probably consider the Leica too. My Leupold is only 24 and I'd like to drop that half pound if I'm going to purchase a new optic.
It's going on my fast and light rifle.
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